[Billy]

Shes bitched about Freddie
Shes shitstirred
She abused Siavashes trust
She plotted to get Sree out
She pits the boys against each other


So why aren't we plotting to get her otu?>!

[Niamh.]

Because she is the lesser of 2 evils imo, I wouldn't be heart broken or anything if she left on fri but I dislike Karly more so I'd prefer her to go. Tbh though I'd only be upset if Siavash went!

[GiRTh]

I agree with you Billy, Noirin is probably worse than Karly but I think people just want break up Lisa clique.

[BBObsesserxX]

They're both bad, it's just that Karly is one less member of team nasty and she's one of the leaders. Plus it'll be funny to see how Lisa copes without her loyal skank.

[Alf]

the fact she's worse means she's better to watch and involved in better storylines.
what does karly do apart from smoke at the bus stop?

[Cybele]

Both of them are b*tches who talk sh*te about others. Noirin tends to be a bit more behind the back with it and Karly tends to be more brutal with it.

The real difference for me is that Noirin doesn't really matter right now. Yes, she manipulates, but she isn't really a major player. She can be gotten out later.

However, Karly is Lisa's hitman. Lisa doesn't want to dirty her own hands so she fills Karly's head with ideas and then sends her out to spew them. Without Karly, Lisa's power is greatly lessened. Charlie is pretty much a follower, but I see glimpses of independent thought even though he rarely tells them to Lisa. I don't think he would go do her bidding as Karly does. Sophie is just a sweet girl who got with the wrong crowd. That comes out more and more since Kris left.

Without Karly, Lisa would have to get her own hands dirty which might get more housemates to nominate her. Without Noirin, nothing changes for Lisa.

To me it is a no-brainer... Karly needs to go.

[Billy]

Team Lisa is gone though. It's game over because they are up for eviction, there is no strength in team lisa anymore, and wouldn't it be better seeing them in there knowing that, than watch Noirin do **** all?

[Rozartytype]

Karly has associated herself too much with the poisonous Lisa,that is why she is more disliked.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Cybele
Both of them are b*tches who talk sh*te about others. Noirin tends to be a bit more behind the back with it and Karly tends to be more brutal with it.

The real difference for me is that Noirin doesn't really matter right now. Yes, she manipulates, but she isn't really a major player. She can be gotten out later.

However, Karly is Lisa's hitman. Lisa doesn't want to dirty her own hands so she fills Karly's head with ideas and then sends her out to spew them. Without Karly, Lisa's power is greatly lessened. Charlie is pretty much a follower, but I see glimpses of independent thought even though he rarely tells them to Lisa. I don't think he would go do her bidding as Karly does. Sophie is just a sweet girl who got with the wrong crowd. That comes out more and more since Kris left.

Without Karly, Lisa would have to get her own hands dirty which might get more housemates to nominate her. Without Noirin, nothing changes for Lisa.

To me it is a no-brainer... Karly needs to go.

I agree completely with everything you said there

[GiRTh]

I think you;re right Billy but Team LIsa dont seem to have reaslised the significance of Kris' departure. He went out of five nominess and he wasnt even put up for eviction by the house. None of them seem to realise they might not be very popular. It's quite funny to watch really and I'm going to enjoy watching another one get picked off this week.

[serensilver]

because Norin isn't in team nasty! and Noirin didn't nominate Freddie!

[Cybele]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I think you;re right Billy but Team LIsa dont seem to have reaslised the significance of Kris' departure. He went out of five nominess and he wasnt even put up for eviction by the house. None of them seem to realise they might not be very popular. It's quite funny to watch really and I'm going to enjoy watching another one get picked off this week.

Yeah, she thinks that Kris must be the most loved in the house and that there is another house where the winners go. LOL She will really think that if Karly goes too!

[charliegimbert]

karly needs to go because of Lisa, noirin can go later

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by wannashag
the fact she's worse means she's better to watch and involved in better storylines.
what does karly do apart from smoke at the bus stop?

bathe with lisa???

[Marc]

Lets hope for a double eviction Billy

[peacemaker]

Originally posted by Cybele
Both of them are b*tches who talk sh*te about others. Noirin tends to be a bit more behind the back with it and Karly tends to be more brutal with it.

The real difference for me is that Noirin doesn't really matter right now. Yes, she manipulates, but she isn't really a major player. She can be gotten out later.

However, Karly is Lisa's hitman. Lisa doesn't want to dirty her own hands so she fills Karly's head with ideas and then sends her out to spew them. Without Karly, Lisa's power is greatly lessened. Charlie is pretty much a follower, but I see glimpses of independent thought even though he rarely tells them to Lisa. I don't think he would go do her bidding as Karly does. Sophie is just a sweet girl who got with the wrong crowd. That comes out more and more since Kris left.

Without Karly, Lisa would have to get her own hands dirty which might get more housemates to nominate her. Without Noirin, nothing changes for Lisa.

To me it is a no-brainer... Karly needs to go.

so noirin has to be worse than karly?
i don't think karly's done much wrong, lisa's been brainwashing her so therefore should we get rid of lisa?
i'm sure without lisa in the house, karly would be much more nice & sweet, she's hanging out with the wrong people i.e lisa & charlie
noirin is a manipulator & is sometimes a horrible cow, she's a nasty piece of work, she doesn't need a lisa because she acts by herself
the two evil hms here are lisa & noirin
karly isn't innocent but she's not as bad as some are making out imo

[Cybele]

Originally posted by peacemaker

so noirin has to be worse than karly?
i don't think karly's done much wrong, lisa's been brainwashing her so therefore should we get rid of lisa?
i'm sure without lisa in the house, karly would be much more nice & sweet, she's hanging out with the wrong people i.e lisa & charlie
noirin is a manipulator & is sometimes a horrible cow, she's a nasty piece of work, she doesn't need a lisa because she acts by herself
the two evil hms here are lisa & noirin imo
karly isn't innocent but she's not as bad as some are making out imo

Wait... you are the one who said that the only reason women want to vote Karly is because they are jealous that she is fit. Right? So why would you put up Noirin in her place? Noirin is just as pretty as Karly, so shouldn't we be hating her for that too? So why give reasons why Noirin is worse? Why aren't you just reminding us silly women that we should hate her because she is pretty? After all, there is no way that a woman could be smart enough to dislike someone based on their BEHAVIOR, right? Right? Or were you talking out of your ar*e on the other thread?

But to answer your question, whether Karly would act differently without Lisa around is an unknown. Maybe she would. Maybe she wouldn't. We have no way of knowing. Should we vote out Lisa instead? ABSOLUTELY. And if we had that choice, I doubt anyone would be mentioning Noirin or Karly. We would all be calling for Lisa to go. But Lisa isn't one of our options this week. In my opinoin, Noirin is as big of a b*tch as Karly. However, getting Noirin out doesn't weaken Lisa. Getting Karly out DOES weaken Lisa.

You do the math.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by Cybele
Both of them are b*tches who talk sh*te about others. Noirin tends to be a bit more behind the back with it and Karly tends to be more brutal with it.

The real difference for me is that Noirin doesn't really matter right now. Yes, she manipulates, but she isn't really a major player. She can be gotten out later.

However, Karly is Lisa's hitman. Lisa doesn't want to dirty her own hands so she fills Karly's head with ideas and then sends her out to spew them. Without Karly, Lisa's power is greatly lessened. Charlie is pretty much a follower, but I see glimpses of independent thought even though he rarely tells them to Lisa. I don't think he would go do her bidding as Karly does. Sophie is just a sweet girl who got with the wrong crowd. That comes out more and more since Kris left.

Without Karly, Lisa would have to get her own hands dirty which might get more housemates to nominate her. Without Noirin, nothing changes for Lisa.

To me it is a no-brainer... Karly needs to go.

I really want Noirin to go, but thats a good set of well stated reasons that I can go with.

Still want Noirin to go ideally, but you have moved me to a place at least where I am not fussed which one of them leaves.

[Angus]

Originally posted by Billy
Shes bitched about Freddie
Shes shitstirred
She abused Siavashes trust
She plotted to get Sree out
She pits the boys against each other


So why aren't we plotting to get her otu?>!

Just for being instrumental in ridding us of that prize tw*t Sree she can stay another week. KARLY to go Friday

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by vesavius
I really want Noirin to go, but thats a good set of well stated reasons that I can go with.

Still want Noirin to go ideally, but you have moved me to a place at least where I am not fussed which one of them leaves.

Agreed

I am not all that fussed who goes but for the sake of bringing Lisa down a peg or two, I'd slightly prefer Karly to go.

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Cybele
Both of them are b*tches who talk sh*te about others. Noirin tends to be a bit more behind the back with it and Karly tends to be more brutal with it.

The real difference for me is that Noirin doesn't really matter right now. Yes, she manipulates, but she isn't really a major player. She can be gotten out later.

However, Karly is Lisa's hitman. Lisa doesn't want to dirty her own hands so she fills Karly's head with ideas and then sends her out to spew them. Without Karly, Lisa's power is greatly lessened. Charlie is pretty much a follower, but I see glimpses of independent thought even though he rarely tells them to Lisa. I don't think he would go do her bidding as Karly does. Sophie is just a sweet girl who got with the wrong crowd. That comes out more and more since Kris left.

Without Karly, Lisa would have to get her own hands dirty which might get more housemates to nominate her. Without Noirin, nothing changes for Lisa.

To me it is a no-brainer... Karly needs to go.

See that's where I disagree.


Noirin is a major player. People underate her, and don't give her enough credit. She is the one both sides need to influence the votes, she has the strongest power out of every housemate, within the house.

[Saywhat]

Originally posted by Billy
Shes bitched about Freddie
Shes shitstirred
She abused Siavashes trust
She plotted to get Sree out
She pits the boys against each other


So why aren't we plotting to get her otu?>!

THEY ALL BITCHED ABOUT FREDDIE

MARCUS IS THE **** STIRRER

SIAVASS LIKEWISED ABUSED HER TRUST WITH THE LIES

IF MARCUS WASNT AROUND, NOIRIN AND SREE WOULD HAVE BEEN FRIENDS

THE BOYS ARE ALL DELUDING THEMSELVES AND WANT A PIECE OF HER

DONT HATE HER COZ SHE IS HOT AND FLIRTS A LITTLE NOW lol

[Cybele]

Originally posted by ukturtle

See that's where I disagree.


Noirin is a major player. People underate her, and don't give her enough credit. She is the one both sides need to influence the votes, she has the strongest power out of every housemate, within the house.

I can't think of a single vote in the house so far where Noirin has been a factor. She has absolutely NO power within the house, to be honest. Even Marcus, who wants to drink her bath water (Eww), doesn't listen to her when it comes to opinions on the other housemates. Lisa and her gang repeatedly say that she can't be trusted.

The only one in the house who has been successfully influencing votes is Lisa. By ridding ourselves of Karly, Lisa's position is severely weakened.

[bettiepage]

Sorry Billy, but Karly is toast. If it helps, I won't be voting at all

[30stone]

Shes bitched about Freddie, thats a given that includes everyone, karly has done it much more though.

Shes shitstirred, again shes done it more than noirin.

She abused Siavashes trust, i dont see how he was just stiring and looking for some entertainment.

She plotted to get Sree out, yes because he was a twat and he harrassed her 24/7

She pits the boys against each other, she doesnt do it on purpose they just all like her..

Karly is more evil. I remmeber when she had a proper go infront of everyone freddie looked tobe holding back tears.