[MTVN]

Thought he was being a bit of a dick about it at first but you could see why he was annoyed about it; they all sacrificed their letters for Claire so she wouldn't feel left out and to show a bit of solidarity, but now when the shoe is on the other foot and Claire has her letter it's suddenly ok for only some of them to have them read and for the rest to miss out?

For a guy who is married and with kids I think, it must be pretty frustrating to have held your letter in your hands, given it up for somebody else, and then not had that same favour repaid to you. Ok so they sort of checked the others were alright with it but the way they did it Ryan wasn't really left with much of a choice but to accept it

[The Penguin]

They all forfeited their letters for Claire. Now Ryan doesn't get his and they all happily read their letters in front of him.

That also proves that yesterdays "we don't want our letters" stunt by the other HMs was just a way of trying to stick it to Speidi.

[Locke.]

Yes he came across pretty well tonight, probably back up to my third favourite

[Ramsay]

Agreed

[Me. I Am Salman]

yes but I still hate him + he needs to go

[Amy Jade]

Claire told them to take their letters yesterday though.

Claire actually sat back down after she heard them say letters, she was encouraged by the other housemates to get get the letters, especially Rylan.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I agree

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Penguin

They all forfeited their letters for Claire. Now Ryan doesn't get his and they all happily read their letters in front of him.

That also proves that yesterdays "we don't want our letters" stunt by the other HMs was just a way of trying to stick it to Speidi.

We made threads on the same thing at basically the same time so I've just merged them, in case you were wondering where your thread had gone

[smeagol]

has he just realized they dont like him much lol bit dim he is.
yea he has a point but he is far too serious far to competetive and slightly psychotic .
if he cared about his letter he would of read it that day instead of being a sheep to rylan to win votes now he has been pooed on he now feels a fool.
if i had kids i'd of read mine the other day not follow the sheep its more important.
its his own fault

[Josy]

He's been my favourite from the start, just a genuine guy who says what he feels and I don't know why other's think he should go tbh, he's been a team player and gave his all in every task right from the start, and he seems to be up for a laugh, I did agree with him about the letters too it wasn't fair that they all gave up theirs because Claire never got hers then had to sit and listen to the others being read out in front of them, it must have been difficult.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Claire told them to take their letters yesterday though.

Claire actually sat back down after she heard them say letters, she was encouraged by the other housemates to get get the letters, especially Rylan.

She didn't really try very hard to persuade them, not saying it's all Claire's fault, it was quite unfair of the others as well to seemingly value Claire's letter over his. In a way he probably wanted his letter the most, not only does he also have a wife and kids but he's on the other side of the world to them

[Gillian-73]

Totally agree. I understand completely where he was coming from!.

[Drew.]

he's a nice guy, must feel pretty lonely at times being half way around the world in a house with random people but he's given it a good shot over the past 2 weeks to get involved

[Johnnyuk123]

Give him his damn letter big brother!

[Ramsay]

I feel sorry for Speidi and Ryan, once this is over everyone else can go back home but Ryan and Speidi have to travel for a long time

[Jake.]

Claire's been given a lot of flack (once more) for this, she sat back down after she found out that there were letters in the hatch, and was encouraged by the others to do it. It's not like she got up and ran to the hatch and stuck up her middle finger to Ryan's face.

[Cherie]

Though I do agree with him, I don't know why he is surprised, he did after all sell Sam down the river in face to face noms when Sam thought they had bonded, and the majority voted for him even though he had unblocked the drains. They are all in it for themselves, and as someone else said last nights tight unit was purely to stick it to Spiedi.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She didn't really try very hard to persuade them, not saying it's all Claire's fault, it was quite unfair of the others as well to seemingly value Claire's letter over his. In a way he probably wanted his letter the most, not only does he also have a wife and kids but he's on the other side of the world to them

I blame Rylan and Frankie over Claire to be honest, they discouraged and lead people into not taking their letters yesterday and then encouraged Claire, Tricia and razor to take them tonight.

I don't blame Ryan at all, I don't like him but I think that's got to be hard for him but I think the blame being placed more with Claire is a bit missplaced, not that I'm claiming you've said she is of course.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Karl

I feel sorry for Speidi and Ryan, once this is over everyone else can go back home but Ryan and Speidi have to travel for a long time

12 hours. With the person they can't get enough of. They will live fair play with Ryan though, although I'm sure his family would be flown out?

[Niamh.]

aww poor guy, I see his point, I think it's incredibly sexist the way the "moms" are prioritised like that

[Cherie]

Actually having just seen him on BOTS carrying it through to the next day and now crying in the bathroom, I think he is acting, playing on the sympathy vote. He's pulling out all the stops to win.

[chuff me dizzy]

Agree 100%,Ive not liked him from night one ,but he is spot on in what he said tonight ,you either make a pact or you dont !! and spot on too about Speidi ,while the 2 faced ,fake arselicking women had their heads firmly up Yanky arse "Do you want more cushions ?" he was right in pointing out they have short memories on what they said about them in task room the other day ,Some of them are going to look pretty silly when they come out and see what they said in diary room the same day they decided to play happy families,wishing the others dead ? and this vermin has fans ? says more about them than me

[the truth]

he has kids 11000 miles away thats heartbreaking....frankie saying a mothers love is greater than a fathers was utter bull and ryan said so....ryan is 100% right...clare rylan and the other lady are selfish

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Agree 100%,Ive not liked him from night one ,but he is spot on in what he said tonight ,you either make a pact or you dont !! and spot on too about Speidi ,while the 2 faced ,fake arselicking women had their heads firmly up Yanky arse "Do you want more cushions ?" he was right in pointing out they have short memories on what they said about them in task room the other day ,Some of them are going to look pretty silly when they come out and see what they said in diary room the same day they decided to play happy families,wishing the others dead ? and this vermin has fans ? says more about them than me

He didn't wish the others dead, that's made up.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by JH95

He didn't wish the others dead, that's made up.

Chuff does that all the time, hears something and then twists it to try devalue people.