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Old 25-05-2018, 09:38 PM #201
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What happens If you are in a stable relationship and you have an unwanted pregnancy, would your partner not have any input into the decision or would you just discuss it with your girlfriends
If it takes two people to create a baby, it should take two people to want to have the baby. Not one, and that goes both ways with a hypothetical "woman wants a baby and then wants child support from the man who didn't want it" sort of situation.
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It's good and bad news, getting rid of a child is never black and white, I don't think abortion should ever by celebrated but something that is done with the utmost sincerity
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It's good and bad news, getting rid of a child is never black and white, I don't think abortion should ever by celebrated but something that is done with the utmost sincerity
Nobody is celebrating abortion Cherie.
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Nobody is celebrating abortion Cherie.
I doubt anyone could support something so serious & heavy . It's a sensitive issue. And I agree it's not as straight forward , but I always feel for the innocent unborn life .
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Nobody is celebrating abortion Cherie.
Well it’s not great news as described, it’s the right result and I couldn’t see any other outcome really, I hope now it’s followed by free contraception although that hasn’t diminished demand for abortion here
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I doubt anyone could support something so serious & heavy . It's a sensitive issue. And I agree it's not as straight forward , but I always feel for the innocent unborn life .
If it passes (hoping the exit poll is right) I'll be celebrating the fact pregnant women will now receive proper healthcare and Doctors aren't restricted and can look after these women properly.
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If it passes (hoping the exit poll is right) I'll be celebrating the fact pregnant women will now receive proper healthcare and Doctors aren't restricted and can look after these women properly.



Yeah exactly that's the important outcome .
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69% Yes according to RTEs Exit Poll
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Both exit polls gave such a similar result I can't see them being wrong, margin of error with these polls is less than 2%
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Both exit polls gave such a similar result I can't see them being wrong, margin of error with these polls is less than 2%
Good job the men got to vote
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Why? More women voted yes than men according to the polls
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Why? More women voted yes than men according to the polls
Because if if the percentage is correct then a lot voted yes? And not all females will have voted one way
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Because if if the percentage is correct then a lot voted yes? And not all females will have voted one way
A higher percentage of women voted yes than men though according to the Polls, I'm confused by your "just aswell men could vote" comment because that came across like Yes wouldn't have won otherwise? Which isn't correct, in fact the Yes win would be higher if only women voted. . .
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A higher percentage of women voted yes than men though according to the Polls, I'm confused by your "just aswell men could vote" comment because that came across like Yes wouldn't have won otherwise? Which isn't correct
I misread the more women than men voted yes bit, thought you said more women voted than men, polls are not always accurate though
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I wish I'd had followed all of this in-depth but I've been so busy, what do they think the outcome will be!?
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A yes vote
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I don't think there's a single person anywhere in any country or religion that would say they celebrate the notion of abortion. It's a pretty psychologically difficult thing to do to yourself, especially the further into the pregnancy you go. I'm aware you probably know that, but my point is that the right to choice IS something that should be celebrated. A lot of the arguments for the no vote do not come from a place that should be celebrated either in my view, in fact some of them are god damn cruel and heartless.
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Yes, that's precisely the issue here. All of the women who have ever been pregnant in history all had that option in front of them.
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Oliver sums up my feelings on the issue, in the U.K. abortion is abused, hopefully as they probably won’t be free in Ireland this won’t be the case
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I'm reluctantly in favour of abortion being available, though I'd rather it be a last resort. I'd rather see unwanted babies go to families who can't have their own.
If it were that easy there’d be no children in the foster/adoption system
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