[Alf]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

So why are you still skeptical if it was caught on camera

Because this one source you showed me is the only source I can find.

This is a serious crime/accusation, yet I've not seen anything definate yet.

Until there's definate proof that the attack is on camera, then he only has his word. I've read reports that his manager heard the attack on his phone, and reports that he and his manager have refused to give the police their phones.

[bitontheslide]

Neither the police or the hospital staff are stupid. If he has been faking it, they would soon say. You know so many people are attacked without there being any solid evidence of what happened, and it's not really typical to say someone is lying. Sure there are some attention seekers, but the normal course of action is to let the police do their job, and sympathise with the victim until proven otherwise.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Was literally thinking this while reading the thread.

Bigoted morons just can't be fixed.

Got anything to say on the story? Or have you just posted to call other forum members bigots?

I guess you calling other people bigots means that you're not a bigot? Well done, give yourself a pat on the back

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Second sentence down

Originally Posted by reece(:

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Jeez Alf, what if this were a rape?. Would you want footage of the crime to believe it? He was hospitalised, the police have released that he was filmed with a rope round his neck. He was the victim of what sounds like a pretty awful and violent attack and you want footage? That's pretty grim

Originally Posted by SherzyK

I mean it is confirmed by the police that the rope was indeed put around his neck. Don’t know why you want the actual video of it

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I would hate to be that cynical Alf, or that desperate to be right. Even if there was footage, they are not going to release it or even comment on it as it is evidence in an on going criminal investigation, I'm surprised they have released as much as they have

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Alf just admit you don’t want to believe it because of who the victim is and go ffs

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Ok you do you

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Attacks by brown people: "THIS WAS DEFINITELY ISLAMIC TERRORISM we don't need any more information to know that! It's a safe bet! Probably illegal immigrant trash too!"

Attacks on brown people: "Let's wait 'til we have all of the facts before jumping to any conclusions."

Originally Posted by Jason.

Was literally thinking this while reading the thread.

Bigoted morons just can't be fixed.

[Alf]

You see how easily people get called bigots? Just because they're questioning an alleged crime. That's how easy it is to brand someone a bigot.

Dark times we live in.

[Alf]

Anybody who has doubts that Steven Avery and Brandan Dassey are guilty, then I think you just might be a bigot, is that right Jason?

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Got anything to say on the story? Or have you just posted to call other forum members bigots?

I guess you calling other people bigots means that you're not a bigot? Well done, give yourself a pat on the back

Originally Posted by Alf

You see how easily people get called bigots? Just because they're questioning an alleged crime. That's how easy it is to brand someone a bigot.

Dark times we live in.

Originally Posted by Alf

Anybody who has doubts that Steven Avery and Brandan Dassey are guilty, then I think you just might be a bigot, is that right Jason?

Looks like I struck a nerve.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Looks like I struck a nerve.

Usually happens when you throw insults out. Did you expect me to just accept them?

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Alf

Usually happens when you throw insults out. Did you expect me to just accept them?

Are you hurt by the fact it’s true? Usually you own these insults

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

You see how easily people get called bigots? Just because they're questioning an alleged crime. That's how easy it is to brand someone a bigot.

Dark times we live in.

I mean call a spade a spade

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

I mean call a spade a spade

Why can't you call it a large tool?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Samm

I bet Alf stinks of piss and ****

Go collect your winnings, you backed a winner.

[Twosugars]

So police are satisfied with the evidence of the attack, but Alf and Oliver are not. Ok.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

So police are satisfied with the evidence of the attack, but Alf and Oliver are not. Ok.

Can you read?

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They wouldn't use it as evidence if if they thought it could just have been put there by himself, but there's still room for a scoach of scepticism.

Does it sound like I'm saying he's a liar, or the evidence still leaves room for doubt?

[Twosugars]

calm down
why room for scepticism then if the police are satisfied?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why has this guy and his manager refused to give police access to their phones? His manager has claimed that he heard the attack on the phone.

Why are you looking for reasons to doubt the victim when the police confirmed they have footage that showed the attack as it was reported?

It was a racist and homophobic attack in which they made out they were gonna lynch the victim, a black man AND they were screaming MAGA at him, I wonder, is that last part why you're so desperate to cast doubt on this story despite the facts?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why are you looking for reasons to doubt the victim when the police confirmed they have footage that showed the attack as it was reported?

It was a racist and homophobic attack in which they made out they were gonna lynch the victim, a black man AND they were screaming MAGA at him, I wonder, is that last part why you're so desperate to cast doubt on this story despite the facts?

The police haven't confirmed anything of the kind. Keep up. The only thing which they have confirmed is that they want to speak to 2 persons of interest and they've shown a cctv picture of those 2 people walking, but they have found no footage of an actual attack. Those 2 people of interest could be totally innocent.

Why are you certain that this man, that you don't know, is telling the truth?

Yes, the MAGA part does arouse suspicion, TDS is a very common condition these days and judging by this guys previous tweets, it looks like he suffers from TDS (Trump derangement syndrome)

I think something happened, it could well be exactly as he says it was, it could have happened differently.

The story is questionable at the moment.

The story so far is that at 2.30am on the coldest day recorded, in a city that is a massive democrat voting, Trump hating City, Two people were roaming the streets in MAGA hats, wearing ski masks and carrying a rope and bleach, on the off chance that they'd bump into this Jussie fella. The area is camera laden, but police have yet to find any footage of an attack. The have found Jussie on camera walking with a rope around is neck.

[Alf]

Some of you people could potentially do jury service in the future. Frightening thought, judging by that you've all solved this case already, in fact you all solved it a few days ago.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

The police haven't confirmed anything of the kind. Keep up. The only thing which they have confirmed is that they want to speak to 2 persons of interest and they've shown a cctv picture of those 2 people walking, but they have found no footage of an actual attack. Those 2 people of interest could be totally innocent.

Why are you certain that this man, that you don't know, is telling the truth?

Yes, the MAGA part does arouse suspicion, TDS is a very common condition these days and judging by this guys previous tweets, it looks like he suffers from TDS (Trump derangement syndrome)

Police have confirmed that a rope was put around Empire star Jussie Smollett's neck when he was attacked in Chicago.

Cops have told TMZ that the assault was caught on a building surveillance camera.

Denying reality to suit your own agenda isn't a good look.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Some of you people could potentially do jury service in the future. Frightening thought, judging by that you've all solved this case already, in fact you all solved it a few days ago.

Considering that you're still trying to deny this story despite the police confirming that the attack was caught on camera, you can't really talk, can you?

There's evidence of the attack yet you're still trying to deny it. Sometimes you just gotta admit you're wrong, Alf.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Denying reality to suit your own agenda isn't a good look.

Who have they confirmed put that rope around his neck?

I don't have any agenda, and have not denied anything.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Considering that you're still trying to deny this story despite the police confirming that the attack was caught on camera, you can't really talk, can you?

There's evidence of the attack yet you're still trying to deny it. Sometimes you just gotta admit you're wrong, Alf.

Show me footage of police confirming that the attack was caught on camera, they have done a press conference so your footage should be available there. .Show me footage of an attack.

[Oliver_W]

At least they were considerate enough to make sure the bleach didn't burn his skin or damage his clothing, and they didn't even damage his sandwich!

#ChicagoPolice source tells @fox32news that #JussieSmollett was seen on surveillance still holding his #Subway sandwich when he returned to the building after the alleged attack.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who have they confirmed put that rope around his neck?

I don't have any agenda, and have not denied anything.

Originally Posted by Alf

Show me footage of police confirming that the attack was caught on camera, they have done a press conference so your footage should be available there. .Show me footage of an attack.

Imagine being this desperate to make out that a victim of a hate crime is lying based on nothing but your own incorrect assumptions.

The police have confirmed the facts, you can continue to delude yourself into thinking that this didn't happen or that it was set up or whatever you're thinking but that won't change the facts. Accept that you're wrong or continue to look foolish by denying the facts.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

At least they were considerate enough to make sure the bleach didn't burn his skin or damage his clothing, and they didn't even damage his sandwich!

You should probably ask yourself why you are so desperate to try to poke holes in a crime when the police, who know more about this situation than any of us, have already confirmed the details of the attack.