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GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I am not complaining about anything or speaking on behalf of anybody apart from myself, just saying there is a couple of generations out there who don't sit on the net all day or do social media or watch reality tv so keeping up with a changing situation isn't as simple as it is made out, as an example PoC I have mainly come across on TiBB, I have rarely heard this used in rl

A couple of generations? Immigrants have been in this country since the 50's. That generations will be in their 90's now. All generations after have no excuse.

I dont see the point you're trying to make here. It seems like you're saying 'let these people be with their ignorance' if so then I have to differ with you. I dont think it takes a lot of effort from someone who want to try.

Twosugars · 14-07-2019, 06:52 PM

I've heard an old woman referring to person of colour as "one of them". She was racist and proud of it. Some oldies just dont care about other people's feelings and wallow in discriminatory terminology. Prince Phillip comes to mind. Somehow they think they've earned a right to be nasty.

bitontheslide · 14-07-2019, 06:55 PM

i think the "problem" is in the rapid changing of what is correct to say and what isn't. I'm on the net and fairly aware of what's going on in the world and I have difficulty keeping up, so someone that isn't particularly socially aware is going to get in to difficulties easily. That's not making excuses for anyone, we should always try not to offend, but it can be easily done if you are not aware.

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:31 PM

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i think the "problem" is in the rapid changing of what is correct to say and what isn't. I'm on the net and fairly aware of what's going on in the world and I have difficulty keeping up, so someone that isn't particularly socially aware is going to get in to difficulties easily. That's not making excuses for anyone, we should always try not to offend, but it can be easily done if you are not aware.

and that is exactly the point I am trying to make BOTs, we are continually told the younger generations are more accepting, more tolerant etc, but only it seems when they choose to, I am not saying everyone over 75 is unaware but there is a large percentage that isn't

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

A couple of generations? Immigrants have been in this country since the 50's. That generations will be in their 90's now. All generations after have no excuse.

I dont see the point you're trying to make here. It seems like you're saying 'let these people be with their ignorance' if so then I have to differ with you. I dont think it takes a lot of effort from someone who want to try.

20 years ago it was not acceptable to call a black person brown, now it fine, the point I am making is that the terminology and what is acceptable and what is not changes, it is not set in stone

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

I've heard an old woman referring to person of colour as "one of them". She was racist and proud of it. Some oldies just dont care about other people's feelings and wallow in discriminatory terminology. Prince Phillip comes to mind. Somehow they think they've earned a right to be nasty.

well of course some oldies don't care and are racist, same as some young people and I have not once generalised, I have said SOME older people may not be aware they are being offensive, there is no excuse for the younger ones though, as they are never off twitter

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:37 PM

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20 years ago it was not acceptable to call a black person brown, now it fine, the point I am making is that the terminology and what is acceptable and what is not changes, it is not set in stone

This is a false statement. I have no recollection of people using the word 'brown'. In what context are you on about? This is news to me and I reckon I know a few things about this subject. Are you making this up?

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:43 PM

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This is false statement. I have no recollection of people using the word 'brown'. In what context are you on about? This is news to me and I reckon I know a few things about this subject. Are you making this up?

In reference to calling people black, 20 years ago you could not refer to people as brown, they had to be called black..... now people are happy to be referred to as brown are they not?

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:44 PM

I am not in the habit of making things up btw

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:45 PM

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In reference to calling people black, 20 years ago you could not refer to people as brown, they had to be called black..... now people are happy to be referred to as brown are they not?

I think you've tied your self in knots and you're talking about two different things.

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:46 PM

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I think you've tied your self in knots and you're talking about two different things.

No I know what I am talking about, you appear to be having difficulty with just about every point I make, so I think it best we leave it there.

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:46 PM

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I am not in the habit of making things up btw

What conclusion should I come to when you so clearly - how should I put this - dont quite fully grasp every aspect of the issue.

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:47 PM

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What conclusion should I come to when you so clearly - how should I put this - dont quite fully grasp every aspect of the issue.

whatever, I could say the same about you.

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:49 PM

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No I know what I am talking about, you appear to be having difficulty with just about every point I make, so I think it best we leave it there.

No you are wrong and you are not making sense. We can do whatever you want but you made a statement that I replied to and now you're talking stuff that I don t get and doesn't make sense to me. And as I've said I know a few things about this subject. Dont worry about my knowledge just try and make sense.

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:49 PM

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whatever, I could say the same about you.

Is that a joke. It made me laugh.

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:50 PM

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No you are wrong and you are not making sense. We can do whatever you want but you made a statement that I replied to and now you're talking stuff that I don t get and doesn't make sense to me. And as I've said I know a few things about this subject. Dont worry about my knowledge just try and make sense.

Bots had no trouble understanding my point, strange that ....

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:51 PM

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Is that a joke. It made me laugh.

Oh well I am glad I was able to get through to you on some level today

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:51 PM

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Bots had no trouble understanding my point, strange that ....

Dont bring other FM's in this. TBH if Bots thinks the progress over the past 50 years has been 'rapid' well.....

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 07:52 PM

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Oh well I am glad I was able to get through to you on some level today

No you dont make sense in this thread and I'd like to further explore the aspect of 'brown'.

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 07:53 PM

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Dont bring other FM's in this. TBH if Bots thinks the progress over the past 50 years has been 'rapid' well.....

Why can't I bring him into it, because you say so?, he understood the point I was making, and you didn't so the issue appears to be yours

parmnion · 14-07-2019, 07:59 PM

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GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 08:07 PM

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Why can't I bring him into it, because you say so?, he understood the point I was making, and you didn't so the issue appears to be yours

Deflect onto me eh? Come on!!!!

You've made a few strange statements in this thread. The one I pointed out was not the first but it was the first I responded to.

GiRTh · 14-07-2019, 08:14 PM

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Not so long ago, it used to be offensive to refer to people as brown....not any more!

we can also refer to people of colour ... its a constantly changing minefield, and I do believe there are still people left who have no idea that using the term 'coloured' is offensive and would be mortified at using it if they did

Here's one.

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Your personal experiences or the fact that you actually lived in Africa matter not a jot, we must all fall in to line and use acceptable UK terminology even if this is not wanted or needed by the people being addressed….white saviours eh

Here's another

parmnion · 14-07-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

I've heard an old woman referring to person of colour as "one of them". She was racist and proud of it. Some oldies just dont care about other people's feelings and wallow in discriminatory terminology. Prince Phillip comes to mind. Somehow they think they've earned a right to be nasty.

Maybe she just didn't know what the correct term is these days her being old and that.?

Cherie · 14-07-2019, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Deflect onto me eh? Come on!!!!

You've made a few strange statements in this thread. The one I pointed out was not the first but it was the first I responded to.

Okay

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