[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Does this mean who won't be wasting resources to organise this stupid and pointless concert now?

No the Concert for Covid
is going ahead.

Loads of Singers/Musicians
rushing to be part of it

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by arista

No the Concert for Covid
is going ahead.

Loads of Singers/Musicians
rushing to be part of it

What a waste of valuable resources.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What a waste of valuable resources.

Yes but the Singers /Musicians
need the gig.
Any not on it
could be washed away.

[arista]

[Trouble1321075]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i don't look into this crisis from a politically perspective though



no one does



honestly if Donnie wants to criticize people he also needs to do that to himself, the things he did wrong (but that ain't never gonna happen)

Does that rule apply to everyone or just Trump? I have not heard anyone on the left or from the WHO or any other group admit any fault lies upon themselves.

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[Trouble1321075]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nobody is making a firm judgement... the advice was there, no it wasn't specific to every country in the world but it was up to individual countries to take the advice and scale it to fit them...not totally disregard it and make your own decisions then start laying blame.



Trump is blaming the WHO and the media, our govt are blaming our scientists all to cover the fact they've failed in their response.

The advice was where exactly???
The WHO was critical of Trump when he initiated his travel bans and was arguing that this was not something large enough to concern the US. They were arguing that people should not majorly change our normal behaviors well into February.

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[Trouble1321075]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Blaming China at this point does nothing though, assign blame when it's all over, defunding the WHO organisation is just dangerous in the middle of a pandemic and it's a purely political move on Trump's part.



Every highly affected country lacked the foresight to make the necessary decisions to prevent the pandemic, most of them don't even have adequate measures in place to begin with. Bill Gates and others highlighted this issue back when Ebola was at risk of ravaging the world but the governments didn't listen.



Assign blame for the origin of the virus when it's just a memory, drag China over the coals at that point, but for now we should just focus on we're doing to fight it.

Why is defunding the WHO dangerous? They were and continue to be largely ineffective in protecting us from the virus. From my laymen perspective it would seem some meaningful reforms are in order. What is the justification to pump money into them, Until those reforms are in motion?

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[Smithy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Does this mean who won't be wasting resources to organise this stupid and pointless concert now?

Originally Posted by parmnion

What a waste of valuable resources.

You realise it’s a charity concert and the who aren’t spending any resources organising it?

Bless

[Livia]

It makes me slightly dizzy to have to agree with anything Trump says, but he's not wholly wrong on this one.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

It makes me slightly dizzy to have to agree with anything Trump says, but he's not wholly wrong on this one.

Trump only cares about american economy, not human lives

how he handles this whole corona pandemic is wrong

people are still dying and all he thinks about is getting economy back up and running to normal

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump only cares about american economy, not human lives

how he handles this whole corona pandemic is wrong

people are still dying and all he thinks about is getting economy back up and running to normal

That may well all be true.

But he's not wrong about the WHO. It was inevitable that he'd eventually get something right. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

That may well all be true.

But he's not wrong about the WHO. It was inevitable that he'd eventually get something right. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

uh, WHO had been following this virus since it was confirmed as outbreak by chinese government (far too late by that corrupt government) but nothing can be put blame on WHO, more blame chinese government for their mistakes but Trump wouldn't do that, because of the whole China-US trade deal could be at risk then and that is bad for US economy


what's to blame for this pandemic? umm idk but bringing your people back from risk zones, sad that i was correct there that being a bad choice but yeah it is the whole ''youdon'tleaveanyonebehind'' mindset **** if no one was brought back, there wouldn't have been a pandemic right now

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

uh, WHO had been following this virus since it was confirmed as outbreak by chinese government (far too late by that corrupt government) but nothing can be put blame on WHO, more blame chinese government for their mistakes but Trump wouldn't do that, because of the whole China-US trade deal could be at risk then and that is bad for US economy


what's to blame for this pandemic? umm idk but bringing your people back from risk zones, sad that i was correct there that being a bad choice but yeah it is the whole ''youdon'tleaveanyonebehind'' mindset **** if no one was brought back, there wouldn't have been a pandemic right now

Not sure I agree with that Nicky. It only needed one person infected in Wuhan to fly out from an international airport and then into an international airport. Everything they touched, everyone they breathed on... the fact that the air on a plane is recycled and recycled...

[Toy Soldier]

Now isn't the time to try to attack the WHO because there's no viable replacement. But I think the way it's been handled by the WHO is... Less than ideal... And when this is over it needs looked at in close detail, in close cooperation with all major world governments.

This will not be the last pandemic we see and there needs to be a much more robust and coordinated international response next time. Whether that's a rethink of the current WHO or a whole new organisation. It also needs much MORE funding from every nation... It should be a large and mandatory part of every budget.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Now isn't the time to try to attack the WHO because there's no viable replacement. But I think the way it's been handled by the WHO is... Less than ideal... And when this is over it needs looked at in close detail, in close cooperation with all major world governments.

This will not be the last pandemic we see and there needs to be a much more robust and coordinated international response next time. Whether that's a rethink of the current WHO or a whole new organisation. It also needs much MORE funding from every nation... It should be a large and mandatory part of every budget.

Fair points, TS, but the WHO can't expect not to be criticised, even now, for the China-centric mishandling.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump only cares about american economy, not human lives

how he handles this whole corona pandemic is wrong

people are still dying and all he thinks about is getting economy back up and running to normal

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump has won then again, remaining president for another 4 years


Donnie is doing an amazing job now under all that pressure of the coronacrisis

Changed your mind pretty quickly there Nicky

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Trouble1321075

Why is defunding the WHO dangerous? They were and continue to be largely ineffective in protecting us from the virus. From my laymen perspective it would seem some meaningful reforms are in order. What is the justification to pump money into them, Until those reforms are in motion?

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It's dumb to blame the WHO when every heavily affected country didn't take the warnings to heart, governments knew about this **** for ages and the WHO's advice has been the same but places like the US have disregarded that information. When the world is in the midst of a pandemic, you don't start to target organisations that can help end the crisis, especially when it's just for political gain.

Blaming the WHO just furthers Trump's agenda of shifting blame. You have countries that are getting the virus under control, like South Korea because they heeded advice and went above and beyond in their response despite being hit hard to begin with. Trump went golfing and did what he always does, blame everyone else but the man in charge, himself.

The US is being ravaged and will be ravaged further by the virus and it's the government's fault and Trump's fault for spreading misinformation and being slow. Trump tried to make out that the coronavirus was just a Democratic ruse, after all...

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Smithy

You realise it’s a charity concert and the who aren’t spending any resources organising it?

Bless

So it takes no organisation at all?

Is that what you are saying..no one from WHO has been involved organising this waste if time while we are in the middle of our worst pandemic for a century.


Away and pat yer own head and stop it wobbling.

[Tom4784]

Let's not forget that the WHO offered the US Corona tests that Trump refused.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Changed your mind pretty quickly there Nicky

sarcasm does kinda exist though

but although i've got nothing against Trump in general, before he became president i actually liked him at Apprentice

he's just not a good stable president

[Tom4784]

The organisation for the concert is probably being handled by the stars and their people. I doubt they have scientists taking time off from research to talk Dua Lipa into performing.

[parmnion]

Paul garwood has his sticky fingers all over this.

[Kizzy]

This is blame culture... I would love to hear exactly how the WHO got the title of being China - centric on this, how could they have done things any better?... they, within 2 weeks of hearing of the outbreak identified named secured the genome sequencing for identification of the new virus. They then produced copious amounts of relevant and accurate advice and information... all of which was ignored by the UK and the US.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Trouble1321075

The advice was where exactly???
The WHO was critical of Trump when he initiated his travel bans and was arguing that this was not something large enough to concern the US. They were arguing that people should not majorly change our normal behaviors well into February.

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Alex?..

The WHO has a timeline of updates, of course individual advice or requests from specific countries will have been available too.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...as-they-happen

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So it takes no organisation at all?

Is that what you are saying..no one from WHO has been involved organising this waste if time while we are in the middle of our worst pandemic for a century.


Away and pat yer own head and stop it wobbling.

Lady Gaga has been organising it with her team, the WHO are partnering with her and have raised over $100,000,000 hardly a waste of time or resources imo