[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You got to laugh or you'de cry, news saying the horse racing committee Is looking into
Saturdays debarcle saying their thoughts are with all the trainers jockeys and owners of the horses !!!!!!! NOTHING about the loss of the horses, oh well I'm sure they can soon be replaced to make them money, bloody low lifes.

Most Sports Organizations (including FIFA in this) only really care about making money, unfortunately they don't really care about anything else, they just pretend to care.

The only compliment I can give the Horse Racing Committee is that they appear to be more honest about it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You got to laugh or you'de cry, news saying the horse racing committee Is looking into
Saturdays debarcle saying their thoughts are with all the trainers jockeys and owners of the horses !!!!!!! NOTHING about the loss of the horses, oh well I'm sure they can soon be replaced to make them money, bloody low lifes.

Low lifes is a good description.

They're looking into it.
They say.
How many times have lies been told that that disgrace of a race has been made safer.
Yet clearly it hasn't.
So what next, they'll look into it again.

Ignorant lying uncaring low lifes as you indicate.

I cannot really print what I'd like to about that disgraceful committee.
However I'll tell them why the Horses were killed..
Because they've done nothing about that cruel bloodsport of a race and event, that's WHY!!!
Shameful and despicable.

[arista]

[Grand National: Protesters are to blame for my
horse's death, trainer claims

Hill Sixteen - trained by Sandy Thomson - suffered a
fatal fall at the first fence,
but the Scottish handler blames animal rights activists
for causing the "hyper" horse to die.]


See Kaz
the Full Picture now coming out.


https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...death-12859159

[arista]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

[Grand National: Protesters are to blame for my
horse's death, trainer claims

Hill Sixteen - trained by Sandy Thomson - suffered a
fatal fall at the first fence,
but the Scottish handler blames animal rights activists
for causing the "hyper" horse to die.]


See Kaz
the Full Picture now coming out.


https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...death-12859159

That's speculation rather than evidence.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

[Grand National: Protesters are to blame for my
horse's death, trainer claims

Hill Sixteen - trained by Sandy Thomson - suffered a
fatal fall at the first fence,
but the Scottish handler blames animal rights activists
for causing the "hyper" horse to die.]


See Kaz
the Full Picture now coming out.


https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...death-12859159

Oh arista,lol of course they will blame anyone but themselves,so what about all the others that have been killed without the protesters there? So sorry, no one to blame but the racing fraternity, racing killed the horses not delays,if anything the delay gave them a little more life!! Such as it is.

[bitontheslide]

Simple fact, if the race were not run, the horses wouldn't have died. Blaming the protestors is insulting

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

[Grand National: Protesters are to blame for my
horse's death, trainer claims

Hill Sixteen - trained by Sandy Thomson - suffered a
fatal fall at the first fence,
but the Scottish handler blames animal rights activists
for causing the "hyper" horse to die.]


See Kaz
the Full Picture now coming out.


https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...death-12859159

Where is that the full picture??

Didn't the police have protesters arrested before the race was started.
If not WHY did they start the race when they did???

You may see this as the full picture actually all it is, is smudging over the full picture.
To transfer any blame from the cruel and maybe inept handlers who can't or won't read their horses emotions.

What about all the around 15 Horses killed for entertainment in this race since the year 2000.
Were they all hyper from protesters??

You get to know Horses, they respond to you.
They demonstrate their willingness and reluctance from their own intelligence..
Good owners, trainers and handlers know their Horses inside out.

Where was this handler screaming not to let it run because it was too hyper?
That handler really was shocking and inept to see a horse race they believed was too hyper to do so in such a dangerous race.

Nothing was said at the start because what the handler NOW is saying is more utter tripe to cover up for a bad owner, trainer and handlers.

However keep on with the protection of the greed of this race, the more bad ownership, bad trainers and handlers.
Rather than respect the lives of beautiful beings such as Horses and blame their deaths on anything and anyone other than this now despicable race.
Even to blame the poor Horse itself.
Shocking.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Where is that the full picture??

Didn't the police have protesters arrested before the race was started.
If not WHY did they start the race when they did???

You may see this as the full picture actually all it is, is smudging over the full picture.
To transfer any blame from the cruel and maybe inept handlers who can't or won't read their horses emotions.

What about all the around 15 Horses killed for entertainment in this race since the year 2000.
Were they all hyper from protesters??

You get to know Horses, they respond to you.
They demonstrate their willingness and reluctance from their own intelligence..
Good owners, trainers and handlers know their Horses inside out.

Where was this handler screaming not to let it run because it was too hyper?
That handler really was shocking and inept to see a horse race they believed was too hyper to do so in such a dangerous race.

Nothing was said at the start because what the handler NOW is saying is more utter tripe to cover up for a bad owner, trainer and handlers.

However keep on with the protection of the greed of this race, the more bad ownership, bad trainers and handlers.
Rather than respect the lives of beautiful beings such as Horses and blame their deaths on anything and anyone other than this now despicable race.
Even to blame the poor Horse itself.
Shocking.

Just proves Joey, the welfare of the horses was never considered,but the loss of money was,hence the race went ahead regardless of what that horse trainer said that they were getting impatient etc,what a load of bollox,he must think we are all as stipid as him.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Just proves Joey, the welfare of the horses was never considered,but the loss of money was,hence the race went ahead regardless of what that horse trainer said that they were getting impatient etc,what a load of bollox,he must think we are all as stipid as him.

Exactly Kazanne.

The real welfare of the Horses is not only way down the list, it's not even likely on the list of priorities.

Greed, pure greed.

It makes me cringe when they say these racehorses have lives of luxury almost.
If they're successful in races, they will likely be, for as long as they remain successful.
For the majority of other Horses, their lives are not all that wonderful as they get pushed more and more to become successful.
If they never do much then they get discarded to any who'll give the best price for them.
Or they'll end up being sent to slaughter.
Some of the owners not giving a damn what happens as long as they get rid of them.

So much for supposed good lives.
I honestly think any really caring or decent Racehorse owner would never put one of his Horses in this despicable grand (huh), national race now.

[LeatherTrumpet]

When people ask me what I think about the actions of the protesters who
tried to disrupt the Grand National, I’m reminded of what happened to a
horse called Brindisi Breeze.

He was the first Cheltenham Festival winner for my partner Lucinda Russell
and we were dreaming of what races he might contest.

But in a paddock for his summer holidays, he escaped by jumping a fence,
got on to a road and was killed in a collision with a lorry. Life is fragile, life is
unpredictable and it is never devoid of risk. Death is an uncomfortable fact
for all us.

My feelings for Corach Rambler are already on record. He has a special place
in my heart and I am content that the test he was set at Aintree in the Grand National was fair.

He will soon go out for his summer holiday. Hopefully he will enjoy the
sunshine on his back in his paddock, but I will still worry about him every
day.

By contrast, Saturday’s race was unbelievably smooth. Corach and his rider
Derek Fox seemed to be in their own bubble.

They got a bit of luck when a loose horse jumped across them at the Canal
Turn but Corach handled that moment.

What I can control is trying to eliminate suffering and that is the ethos I bring

to training horses such as Corach Rambler.

Plenty of advances in veterinary medicine, which benefit other equine sports

and the horse population in general, have been made because of

developments in the welfare of horses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ra...worry-day.html

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

general have

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When people ask me what I think about the actions of the protesters who
tried to disrupt the Grand National, I’m reminded of what happened to a
horse called Brindisi Breeze.

He was the first Cheltenham Festival winner for my partner Lucinda Russell
and we were dreaming of what races he might contest.

But in a paddock for his summer holidays, he escaped by jumping a fence,
got on to a road and was killed in a collision with a lorry. Life is fragile, life is
unpredictable and it is never devoid of risk. Death is an uncomfortable fact
for all us.

My feelings for Corach Rambler are already on record. He has a special place
in my heart and I am content that the test he was set at Aintree in the Grand National was fair.

He will soon go out for his summer holiday. Hopefully he will enjoy the
sunshine on his back in his paddock, but I will still worry about him every
day.

By contrast, Saturday’s race was unbelievably smooth. Corach and his rider
Derek Fox seemed to be in their own bubble.

They got a bit of luck when a loose horse jumped across them at the Canal
Turn but Corach handled that moment.

What I can control is trying to eliminate suffering and that is the ethos I bring

to training horses such as Corach Rambler.

Plenty of advances in veterinary medicine, which benefit other equine sports

and the horse population in general, have been made because of

developments in the welfare of horses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ra...worry-day.html

But this isnt an accident they were made to run ,it could have been avoided.

[LeatherTrumpet]

1,877,964,024

animals have been killed for food
this year in the United Kingdom

number of horses that died at the Aintree festival = 3

https://animalclock.org/uk/

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

1,877,964,024

animals have been killed for food
this year in the United Kingdom

number of horses that died at the Aintree festival = 3

https://animalclock.org/uk/

Many more than that LT over the years , I don't eat animals either imo,there is no need in this day and age,each to their own but eating meat or dairy is not for me either,it all comes under animal cruelty, I love animals so will not be eating them. Since the first Grand National in 1839, 84 horses have died during the event. Around 41 of those deaths took place between 2000 and 2012. that is just the Grand National figures,looking at all other racing it will be much more. At Aintree alone, 55 horses have died since 2000, including 15 during the Grand National itself, while in 2021 there were 200 horse fatalities across Britain.The link you posted is very sad and that is important to me too,i dont want to be part of that.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

Agree with Nige, it's time to start being intolerant of them. They are the enemy of us. The authorities need to either do something about them or if they don't then the people should do it themselves. We can no longer allow these spoilt children the freedom to keep disrupting our lives.

And if the people do take action themselves and the authorities come down on the people instead, then we know that these groups are working for the globalist elites to purpousley cause disruption, which is what many believe is the case.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

1,877,964,024

animals have been killed for food
this year in the United Kingdom

number of horses that died at the Aintree festival = 3

https://animalclock.org/uk/

Obviously there's a huge gulf in the numbers that would seem to trivialise this -- but personally I'd say there's genuinely a big difference in animals being killed for food, and animals being killed in the name of entertainment.

[arista]

Yes the Grand National
is making more efforts
and updating rules.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Obviously there's a huge gulf in the numbers that would seem to trivialise this -- but personally I'd say there's genuinely a big difference in animals being killed for food, and animals being killed in the name of entertainment.

Massively so as to a difference.

[Gusto Brunt]

I haven't watched The Grand National for about 16 years and YES it is cruel.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I haven't watched The Grand National for about 16 years and YES it is cruel.

Thats OK



But Next year, it is going to be better
more improvements will be carried out.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

1,877,964,024

animals have been killed for food
this year in the United Kingdom

number of horses that died at the Aintree festival = 3

https://animalclock.org/uk/

Yes, and those 3 Horses that sadly died,
were not all on the Grand National day.

A fact that "some" posters MISS
on purpose.

[arista]

Just Stop Oil
are now going to Protest
The London Marathon this Sunday

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Just Stop Oil
are now going to Protest
The London Marathon this Sunday

If they stop the marathon how will all the runners flood social media with their times and images of them with their medals?