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Shasown · 17-08-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HBB1508

I'm sure to a lot of people it is and I am well aware of the many acts that farmers have to abide by telling them to clear their land of what are termed as vermin. Personally I am against it all I don't eat meat and I don't kill anything - that's just me I'm afraid and people who hunt these animals for fun and sport make me feel ill. I know it happens but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I'm sure if all wildlife was left alone a natural balance would prevail without man jumping in to do his act of god bit.

But I bet you have lots of leather shoes, belts, jackets etc or other products from animals around the house.

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Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

hunting those that hunt is far more rewarding and they make much better trophies

who would win in a fight?

Dave vs Predator

Dave if he has seen the movie and doesnt mind wearing a full body mud pack,
well we know he is partial to the odd beauty product.

jet · 17-08-2010, 08:50 PM

I've gone off Dave after reading this thread.

Boneatron · 20-08-2010, 06:42 AM

I don't agree with killing for fun - just like Sir Peter Scott whom in his youth shot thousands of geese until he realised that live creatures are a far greater source of enjoyment for a far greater number of people than the one that does the killing.

That's why he set up the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust.

sharon.schofield3 · 20-08-2010, 06:48 AM

Dave entered the house stating he was training to be a minister. Dave claims to be a Christian. If what he is prolaiming is correct, he needs a change of occupation.
As a Christian he should not be supporting and enjoying the group bullying tactics of John James and Sam, he should be the one to defend the victims of the bullies attention or is he like so meny in the house affraid he will be next in line?

calyman · 20-08-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Shooting rabbits and foxes is far more humane than snaring them.

But leaving them alone is more humane still.

HBB1508 · 20-08-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by calyman

But leaving them alone is more humane still.

HBB1508 · 20-08-2010, 07:38 AM

[QUOTE=Shasown;3673959]But I bet you have lots of leather shoes, belts, jackets etc or other products from animals around the house.

Actually no I don't at all.

The Truth Is Out There! · 20-08-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Hunting foxes and rabbits IS conservation. Rabbit population increases faster than the prdator population can keep up and there aren't many species that will predate rabbits in the first place as they are an introduced species, albeit a long time ago.

Foxes are an apex predator with an abundance of food. If not controlled the population would explode, prey species would be wiped out, UK wildlife would be massively affected and then foxes would eventually die out.

The only thing keeping the balance is people controlling the population not decimating it.

Foot shot Yet again!

Boneatron · 20-08-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by calyman

But leaving them alone is more humane still.

Shasown · 20-08-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HBB1508

Actually no I don't at all.

Any kids then?

Shasown · 20-08-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by calyman

But leaving them alone is more humane still.

Typical no nothing urban myth. Managing animal populations by limiting them prevents all sorts of conditions occurring if the population got out of control.

Claymores · 20-08-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Typical no nothing urban myth. Managing animal populations by limiting them prevents all sorts of conditions occurring if the population got out of control.

Woken-up in a bad mood Tel?

Boneatron · 20-08-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Any kids then?

I do - though true to being a veggie I got mine from the fruit section in Tesco's, not the meat section!!

Livia · 20-08-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by calyman

But leaving them alone is more humane still.

I don't agree with killing animals and I could never kill an animal myself, but unfortunately it's something that has to be done. I'm not talking about hunting for fun, I'm talking about protecting livestock and stopping crops being ruined. It'd be nice to say let all the bright and beautiful fluffy animals live and thrive and multiply... but it would not be possible if we want to produce food. Of course we could allow out countryside to be overrun, then import all our food from abroad, where animal welfare could be MUCH further down the list of priorities than it is here.

HBB1508 · 20-08-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Any kids then?

Urm yes both grown up now thanks

Shasown · 20-08-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Claymores

Woken-up in a bad mood Tel?

Nah just stating a fact. When rabbit populations get too large, diseases run riot through populations, similarly during harsh winters cannibalism is often seen.

Peter Plunker · 20-08-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Is Out There!

Foot shot Yet again!

In what way? Oh is it because I said that foxes are an apex predator yet there are way too many rabbits? Well, for a start foxes seldom predate rabbits, any population that exceeds the numbers that it's natural equilibrium can support will either need outside control or it will die out de to lack of food and disease, thereby ruining biodiversity.

So no, no shot foot here. You probably shouldn't discuss things you don't know about, which judging by your posts on here leaves with precious few options.

TBV · 20-08-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Boneatron

I do - though true to being a veggie I got mine from the fruit section in Tesco's, not the meat section!!

karezza · 20-08-2010, 09:59 AM

Dave on live feed said he loved to shoot rabbits. What sort of Christian is he?

Shasown · 20-08-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza

Dave on live feed said he loved to shoot rabbits. What sort of Christian is he?

A rabbit shooting one, does it say in the bible not to shoot rabbits?

Wasnt in the ten commandments that I was taught.

There are lots of good reasons to slate him for unchristianlike behaviour but predating vermin isnt really one of them.

Dont let hate blind you!

Livia · 20-08-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza

Dave on live feed said he loved to shoot rabbits. What sort of Christian is he?

What are you talking about, what sort of Christian is he?

How much further is this ridiculous and hysterical hounding of Dave going on, I wonder?

karezza · 20-08-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

A rabbit shooting one, does it say in the bible not to shoot rabbits?

Wasnt in the ten commandments that I was taught.

There are lots of good reasons to slate him for unchristianlike behaviour but predating vermin isnt really one of them.

Dont let hate blind you!

Leviticus 14:3 - do not kill rabbits, they are God's creatures.

Shasown · 20-08-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza

Leviticus 14:3 - do not kill rabbits, they are God's creatures.

Now that is typical of you to take things out of context to prove your point. You missed out:

Leviticus 14:4-6 - But if ye do have to cull them, verily I say unto thee lamping with a high powered rifle, from 300 cubits(cubit = 0.5 yards) is okay.

Enid · 20-08-2010, 10:25 AM

I even get pissed when people shoot magpies and rats.

karezza · 20-08-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Now that is typical of you to take things out of context to prove your point. You missed out:

Leviticus 14:4-6 - But if ye do have to cull them, verily I say unto thee lamping with a high powered rifle, from 300 cubits(cubit = 0.5 yards) is okay.

Leviticus 15:6 - If you shoot a rabbit then God will shoot you.

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