[kistar]

Speidi harp on about being villainised by American reality tv , it cost them everything apparently , yet they come here and play the same game , on one hand they claim to be the victims of the media and the next they are real life villains.I think they are villains who think they are victims.What do you think?

[Marcus.]

Villains

[Jake.]

In no way are they victims. They are where they are for being arseholes.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marcus.

Villains

Villains who then complain about the consequences crazy.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by JH95

In no way are they victims. They are where they are for being arseholes.

They were the same in America and yet they claim to be victims of the media

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by kistar

Villains who then complain about the consequences crazy.

the are just evil

[Tregard]

Both in varying amounts at different times.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Tregard

Both in varying amounts at different times.

Can you be both?

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Villains how anyone can think they are victims is beyond me

They are horrible nasty people

[Roy Mars III]

Heroes

[kistar]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Villains how anyone can think they are victims is beyond me

They are horrible nasty people

I think they think they are victims.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

Heroes

Heroes for which element of the community?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

Heroes

...is the correct answer.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Jack_

...is the correct answer.

Heroes for who?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kistar

Heroes for who?

The show, considering without them it would have crumbled very early on. They've saved it.

[sampvt]

They claim the Media has ruined them, dont they realise it was the media that made them. In the real world, act like a dick, get treated like one. What goes around comes around. They are victims in their own little fabricated world and have a hard time deciphering between real and fake.

They are just plain nasty and love to play it that way. seriously deluded twots in my opinion and villians is a soft word for them.

[Livia]

They're a pair of ignorant, duplicitous, untruthful, talentless, boring non-entities. They can't do anything, they have no skills to offer, they're not great conversationalists, they haven't any discernable talents, they're not witty, funny or amusing... so I struggle to see why people are voting for these deeply unlikeable people. All I hear is that "the others are boring". Well, how would we know?

[KingBilly]

They are neither, they are just Speidi.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're a pair of ignorant, duplicitous, untruthful, talentless, boring non-entities. They can't do anything, they have no skills to offer, they're not great conversationalists, they haven't any discernable talents, they're not witty, funny or amusing... so I struggle to see why people are voting for these deeply unlikeable people. All I hear is that "the others are boring". Well, how would we know?

Exactly

[KingBilly]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're a pair of ignorant, duplicitous, untruthful, talentless, boring non-entities. They can't do anything, they have no skills to offer, they're not great conversationalists, they haven't any discernable talents, they're not witty, funny or amusing... so I struggle to see why people are voting for these deeply unlikeable people. All I hear is that "the others are boring". Well, how would we know?

Says you.

[Tom4784]

Victims, they've done nothing but not been taken in by Rylan's bull****.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The show, considering without them it would have crumbled very early on. They've saved it.

I think in dominating it they ruined any chance of the others being able to flourish.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The show, considering without them it would have crumbled very early on. They've saved it.

Jack....you are under the impression that they caried the series, well if they were not there, the series would have blossomed and the likes of Frankie and Trish would have flourshed and storylines would have developed naturally. Having them in there killed that from happening and the show took on a life of its own which has decended into a crappy uncomfortable mess with hate, nastiness and controvosy at the helm. Sorry but i prefer it a little more entertaining and with different things happening. All we are getting on this show is vile hate and nastiness on a daily basis, its become uncomfortabel and boring in its content.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Victims, they've done nothing but not been taken in by Rylan's bull****.

[KingBilly]

They're more like heroes than victims.

One is the modern day Jesus, whilst the other is the modern day Mother Theresa.