[Me. I Am Salman]

All Persil ads feature women

[arista]

"why dont they get off their backsides and do it like men do?"


The Truth
I hope You Never Run into Kizzy
as She Works Real Hard.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Salman!

All Persil ads feature women

Thats True


about Time they had a man washing?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We don't have a wheelie bin, the bin men won't drive down our hill so I have to bring our rubbish into work with me

Bin men annoy the crap out of me!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

No thats her Choice
No need to get Nasty

Im not please dont falsely accuse people. she called me sexist she is the one labelling me and being nasty, so youre wrong

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

"why dont they get off their backsides and do it like men do?"


The Truth
I hope You Never Run into Kizzy
as She Works Real Hard.

I didnt say she didnt? why are you deliberately implying things I havent said, thats very disingenuous of you

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats True


about Time they had a man washing?

men do often wash, which proves these ads do not represent reality at all. in fact a vast proportion of homes have machines that wash all clothes and dishes and dry them all too, again ignored by these biased out dated anti male adverts

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

Im not please dont falsely accuse people. she called me sexist she is the one labelling me and being nasty, so youre wrong

Yes I got called Sexist
but it Flys Over My Head.


OK you are not nasty
but picky

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes I got called Sexist
but it Flys Over My Head.


OK you are not nasty
but picky

picky is fair enough. I suppose we all have our bugbears and things that upset some more than others. I get really very upset about these type of things as I know ultimately whilst it appears like a trivial ad this type of thing really does affect society as it adds to the unfair narrative than men are lazy useless uncaring and always there for a cheap potshot. in the end this pack of lies adds up to a society which sees men as bad and women as always th einnocent victims.when the reality is nothing like as black or white. end result is usually men lose custody of their children, lose their homes in dovorce cases and end up in a one bedroom flat paying for towards their children and ex wives and living a paltry existence. makes men want to give up altogether on relationships no wonder male suicides are so unbelievably high, and still as we see on this website nobody cares

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by the truth

picky is fair enough. I suppose we all have our bugbears and things that upset some more than others. I get really very upset about these type of things as I know ultimately whilst it appears like a trivial ad this type of thing really does affect society as it adds to the unfair narrative than men are lazy useless uncaring and always there for a cheap potshot. in the end this pack of lies adds up to a society which sees men as bad and women as always th einnocent victims.when the reality is nothing like as black or white. end result is usually men lose custody of their children, lose their homes in dovorce cases and end up in a one bedroom flat paying for towards their children and ex wives and living a paltry existence. makes men want to give up altogether on relationships no wonder male suicides are so unbelievably high, and still as we see on this website nobody cares

...It’s not that nobody cares truth ...in some things males do have a pretty rough time and are much less often the custodial parent in divorce situations, which is very heartbreaking for them..and yes the financial strain as well...but females also have hardships ..single parenting isn’t easy and trying to afford childcare so they can work and provide something for their children..some females work more than one job to do that...I don’t think there are any winners in the breakdown of a relationship....and it certainly isn’t about the women ‘out to get’ the men....

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...It’s not that nobody cares truth ...in some things males do have a pretty rough time and are much less often the custodial parent in divorce situations, which is very heartbreaking for them..and yes the financial strain as well...but females also have hardships ..single parenting isn’t easy and trying to afford childcare so they can work and provide something for their children..some females work more than one job to do that...I don’t think there are any winners in the breakdown of a relationship....and it certainly isn’t about the women ‘out to get’ the men....

Of course I agree , however all the issues youve brought up about female hardships are brought up in the mainstream every minute every hour every day...the male ones are simply ignored. the number of support agencies for women outnumber mens by over 30 to 1. there is no battle of the sexes, there is a battle between rich and poor howver and thats been running since man first walked on the planet. the rich have always divided and conquered the working classes by setting them against each other. once it was done with land and money and resources. now its done with the so called battle of the sexes. insurnace companies are now allowed to sell private information to legal firms who in turn spam housewives and promote the fact they will get them a profitable divorce. this is the way of the world nowadays. its sick.

as for these men who have supposedly ruled the world, heres the life expectancy charts of all men and women in the US the past 100 years. the gap between the 2 has grown hugely

1900
men 46.3
women 48.3

1901
47.6
50.6

1902
49.8
53.4

1903
49.1
52.0

1904
46.2
49.1

1905
47.3
50.2

1906
46.9
50.8

1907
45.6
49.9

1908
49.5
52.8

1909
50.5
53.8

1910
48.4
51.8

1911
50.9
54.4

1912
51.5
55.9

1913
50.3
55.0

1914
52.0
56.8

1915
52.5
56.8

1916
49.6
54.3

1917
48.4
54.0

1918
36.6
42.2

1919
53.5
56.0

1920
53.6
54.6

1921
60.0
61.8

1922
58.4
61.0

1923
56.1
58.5

1924
58.1
61.5

1925
57.6
60.6

1926
55.5
58.0

1927
59.0
62.1

1928
55.6
58.3

1929
55.8
58.7

1930
58.1
61.6

1931
59.4
63.1

1932
61.0
63.5

1933
61.7
65.1

1934
59.3
63.3

1935
59.9
63.9

1936
56.6
60.6

1937
58.0
62.4

1938
61.9
65.3

1939
62.1
65.4

1940
60.8
65.2

1941
63.1
66.8

1942
64.7
67.9

1943
62.4
64.4

1944
63.6
66.8

1945
63.6
67.9

1946
64.4
69.4

1947
64.4
69.7

1948
64.6
69.9

1949
65.2
70.7

1950
65.6
71.1

1951
65.6
71.4

1952
65.8
71.6

1953
66.0
72.0

1954
66.7
72.8

1955
66.7
72.8

1956
66.7
72.9

1957
66.4
72.7

1958
66.6
72.9

1959
66.8
73.2

1960
66.6
73.1

1961
67.0
73.6

1962
66.8
73.4

1963
66.6
73.4

1964
66.9
73.7

1965
66.8
73.7

1966
66.7
73.8

1967
67.0
74.2

1968
66.6
74.0

1969
66.8
74.3

1970
67.1
74.7

1971
67.4
75.0

1972
67.4
75.1

1973
67.6
75.3

1974
68.2
75.9

1975
68.8
76.6

1976
69.1
76.8

1977
69.5
77.2

1978
69.6
77.3

1979
70.0
77.8

1980
70.0
77.4

1981
70.4
77.8

1982
70.8
78.1

1983
71.0
78.1

1984
71.1
78.2

1985
71.1
78.2

1986
71.2
78.2

1987
71.4
78.3

1988
71.4
78.3

1989
71.7
78.5

1990
71.8
78.8

1991
72.0
78.9

1992
72.3
79.1

1993
72.2
78.8

1994
72.3
79.0

1995
72.5
78.9

1996
73.1
79.1

1997
73.6
79.4

1998
73.8
79.5

you can bet though working class men and women (men especially died much younger than the overall average as the rich lasted way longer such as queen victoria who reach the enormous age of 81 in 1901

the vast majority of men eigher fought in horrendous world wars, those who survived usually suffered tb also pneumonia , even disease like black water fever and lepracy....etc there was of course no healthcare no national insurance no compensation no welfare state ,no taxes at all on the rich until A MAN callled lloyd george introduced them.

working class men and women had it very very hard, much harder than the rich. also working class men didnt have the voting right either, everyone had to vote for the land owner, so thats another lie by the radical feminists..I say bury the lies of radical feminism who take all of history out of context as if all men hate all women and they all opporessed all women, utter utter poisonous lies.

these working class people lived lives so tough we couldnt possibly imagine. men were conscripted to battle endless unwinnable wars to build empires for the rich....the women were left at home with the kids to fend for themselves....everyone had it hard beyond words....

even smaller matters such as the disgusting titanic voyage saw the working men corrupted exploited and drowned like rats by the rich whose entire fault it was the ship sank wimply to serve their egos. the majority of men of course gave their life jackets to the women and children, Out of the 527 adult women that where passengers and crew on board, 418 survived. Out of the 1,690 adult male passengers and crew on board, only 338 survived.

as for world war 2, between 62 and 78 million died in world war 2, the vast majority were men (over 60 million working class men sacrificed for the what? an even larger majority were working class men.(416000 male american soldiers died, compared to 16 women in total) working class men have been exploited throughout history , now they are even having their history stolen from them. I weep for my grandfather and his forefathers because I know they were great great men. I have their diaries still and I know how they suffered for their families and for this God damned empire

[the truth]

this has been going on for decades now...



Men Behaving Sadly
The Age - Wednesday, 8th December 1999

Why does nobody care about men killing themselves? There's immense public concern about youth suicide. Australia has spent more than $31million over the past four years to try to reduce our high suicide rates among the young. There's much angst about Aboriginal deaths in custody, and even gay youths are finally being acknowledged as a group at risk. But when it comes to blokes, ordinary adult men killing themselves in ever-increasing numbers, there's no interest.

Our health departments have spent the past few years studiously ignoring the growing evidence that adult men aged 25-44 are most at risk - as confirmed by figures released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics last week. In 1998, men in this age group had the highest suicide rate of all Australians, followed by men aged 15-24. Elderly men, 75 and over, who traditionally have the highest rate, in that year fell into third place.

Males are four times more likely than females to take their own lives.

While there's good reason for concern over the tripling of youth suicide rates over the past 30 years, in the past decade the youth rate has virtually levelled off while suicide rates for males aged 25-44 continue to rise. In 1990 the rate for this latter group was 27 per 100,000. In 1998 it hit 37.

Men's health activists and suicide researchers have long been trying to convince health authorities that blokes are in trouble. A recent Australian Medical Journal article by Dr Chris Cantor from the Australian Institute for Suicide Research and Prevention at Griffith University made a strong case that these high-risk men should be targeted by suicide-prevention policies.

But so far there's little sign that anyone is listening. Early this year, the Health Minister, Michael Wooldridge, sought community reaction to a draft national action plan for suicide prevention. All the politically sensitive groups rated a mention - young people, gays, Aborigines - but not a word on programs targeting men, let alone the vulnerable 25-44 group.

Men's health initiatives announced recently by the federal Department of Health and Aged Care fail to include any proposals to deal with this issue. In fact, there is active resistance among health policy bureaucrats to funding any research that identifies suicide as a "male" issue. The standard line is that targeting male suicide is inappropriate because females attempt suicide even more often than males. The fact that men are four times more likely to make a proper job of it is dismissed as irrelevant.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We don't have a wheelie bin, the bin men won't drive down our hill so I have to bring our rubbish into work with me

you taking rubbish again sexy Niamh

[Jake.]

Urgh, people will complain about anything nowadays, if the advert showcased a man faffing about in a panicky manner cooking the christmas dinner no doubt people would complain

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JH95

Urgh, people will complain about anything nowadays, if the advert showcased a man faffing about in a panicky manner cooking the christmas dinner no doubt people would complain

WRONG, FEMINISTS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING, they hAave no sense of humour about these things, men have always laughed it off until now, because people are starting to take this nonsense seriously, so MEN HAVE DECIDED to start doing the same to ensure there is actually a tiny bit of equality.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

WRONG, FEMINISTS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING, they hAave no sense of humour about these things, men have always laughed it off until now, because people are starting to take this nonsense seriously, so MEN HAVE DECIDED to start doing the same to ensure there is actually a tiny bit of equality.

What an overreaction... I would have thought that the majority of people who complained about this would be men!
They are the ones portrayed as feckless lumps who arn't capable of organising a meal...
To most of the men I know this is really offensive, but then I don't associate with anyone with atypical 1950's values as to patriarchy so...

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

WRONG, FEMINISTS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING, they hAave no sense of humour about these things, men have always laughed it off until now, because people are starting to take this nonsense seriously, so MEN HAVE DECIDED to start doing the same to ensure there is actually a tiny bit of equality.

Yeah ok.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by JH95

Urgh, people will complain about anything nowadays, if the advert showcased a man faffing about in a panicky manner cooking the christmas dinner no doubt people would complain

I agree Jake... remember that advert that had some singer (can't remember her name, but she sounds like Orville) cycling through a supermarket singing?.... people complained about that because she wasn't wearing the correct safet gear like a helmet and shiz!!! I mean wtAf??

[Lee.]

In fact, here's the story....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8104658.stm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

encouraged more? why dont they get off their backsides and do it like men do?

there are zillions of male bashing adverts , shows etc no female bashing. is become 100% one sided and its plain wrong. its also very disappojnting that a lot of women like niahm here refuse to look at the male viewpoint at all. shes happy though to ring men in emergencies to fix her roof, her water pipes, her electrics, her sky dish, or for a fireman to carry her from a buring building, but shes quite happy to sit back and see all men portrayed as lazy sexist and uncaring on mainstream media? its disgusting

Excuse me? How am I happy to let men be portrayed as lazy? I actually disagreed with the ad, if you'd bothered to read any of my posts. And for your information my husband is a fireman and in his station 1/3 of the firefighters are female.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Excuse me? How am I happy to let men be portrayed as lazy? I actually disagreed with the ad, if you'd bothered to read any of my posts. And for your information my husband is a fireman and in his station 1/3 of the firefighters are female.

Female firefighters eh. I bet they're better than the men at going up and down the poles.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Female firefighters eh. I bet they're better than the men at going up and down the poles.

The Driver is female as well