[lostalex]

Thanks Sheriff and Lee, i thought maybe i was talking to myself.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Thanks Sheriff and Lee, i thought maybe i was talking to myself.

those are the best coversations

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Omah manages to get over everything he wants to say with one pipe smiley sheriff... why can't you? haha!

put that big spoon down kizzy before someone gets hurt or infracted

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

put that big spoon down kizzy before someone gets hurt or infracted

This is a debate
We Invaded Muslim Nations (thanks to Corrupt blair/bush)

Now they get revenge



War on Terror
is expecting to go on for 20 years

[Omah]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you are by suggesting I need to do more deeper reading, would suggest you think im not educated enough to under stand war!.

If you believe that, in any "war" :

a) only one side fights fair

b) one side fights to protect, the other fights to destroy

then, IMO, you are remarkably under-informed.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by arista

This is a debate
We Invaded Muslim Nations (thanks to Corrupt blair/bush)

Now they get revenge



War on Terror
is expecting to go on for 20 years

this war will never be over as its based around religion.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Omah

If you believe that, in any "war" :

a) only one side fights fair

b) one side fights to protect, the other fights to destroy

then, IMO, you are remarkably under-informed.

on this war all that I said is true, in other wars its very different.
this war is soldiers in uniform against people going about un noticed in civilian clothes.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

on this war all that I said is true, in other wars its very different.
this war is soldiers in uniform against people going about un noticed in civilian clothes.

Erm, ever heard of the IRA .....

[Kizzy]

Sorry, yep it is Blair /Bush are no longer in power.. why are there still tensions then?

[arista]

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Omah

Erm, ever heard of the IRA .....

of course I have! we are talking about this war!
its a form of Guerrilla warfare in Ireland, and we may see more of the tactics that have been used in Ireland being used over here.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sorry, yep it is Blair /Bush are no longer in power.. why are there still tensions then?

who's that question for?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

who's that question for?

It was to arista sheriff, you are all too quick haha!

[billy123]

The definition of terrorism according to the Oxford English dictionary.

the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

I despair of the UK and USA they are probably responsible for more terrorist attacks than any other nations in the world.
If you are going to dish it out in the pursuit of money then be prepared to get it back occasionally.
The ****ing media in this country turn my stomach what chance does anyone stand when you have the likes of ITV stating that a "muslim looking" couple of people were responsible for the murder of a soldier.
WTF does a muslim look like? They are trying to poison your mind to think that a "muslim looking" person is a bad person.

Who would choose to base an opinion on mainstream media? They are politically driven there is nothing impartial about them they have an agenda and they stick to it.
The truth doesnt even figure in what they choose to report.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

of course I have! we are talking about this war!
its a form of Guerrilla warfare in Ireland, and we may (sic) see more of the tactics that have been used in Ireland being used over here.

Read on :

List of terrorist incidents in London

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...he_Troubles.22

Irish republican attacks during the Second World War

On 16 January 1939, the Irish Republican Army (IRA) launched a campaign of bombing and sabotage against the civil, economic, and military infrastructure of the United Kingdom. The campaign petered-out in early 1940.

1939
16 January: a bomb exploded outside the control room of a large power station. It created a large crater in the forecourt of the building. There were no casualties and the control station was reportedly undamaged. A second explosion damaged an overhead cable running from Grand Union Canal to Willesden Power Station.
17 January: a bomb exploded at Williams & Deacons Bank, damaging gas mains.
4 February: two bombs exploded in the London Underground – one at Tottenham Court Road station and one at Leicester Square station. They were timed suitcase bombs stored in the left-luggage rooms overnight. There were no deaths, although two people were wounded and severe damage was done to the stations.
9 February: two bombs exploded at King's Cross station.
2 March: a bomb exploded on an aqueduct for the Grand Union Canal near Stonebridge Park.
23 March: five bombs exploded at different times during the day. Targets included telephone and gas installations, and the offices of the News Chronicle in Fleet Street.
29 March: two bombs exploded on Hammersmith Bridge.
31 March: seven bombs exploded in different parts of the city.
5 May: two bombs exploded.
10 June: bombs exploded in thirty post offices and postboxes in London, Birmingham and Manchester.
24 June: several bombs exploded before or after a republican demonstration (under police protection) demanding the release of IRA volunteers.
24 June: bombs exploded at the London branches of the Midland Bank, Westminster Bank and Lloyds Bank.
26 July: two bombs exploded in the London Underground – one in the left-luggage area of King's Cross Station and one in the left-luggage area of Victoria Station. In the King's Cross attack, one man was killed and two wounded. In the Victoria Station attack five were wounded.

1940
6 February: two bombs exploded in mailbags at Euston Station.
23 February: two bombs exploded in the West End. The devices had been placed in litter bins. Thirteen people were wounded.

Irish republican attacks during "the Troubles"

In many cases telephoned warnings were given about bombs due to explode, identified as genuine by the use of a code word. In some cases the warning gave the wrong location, or did not give enough time to evacuate the area. Hoax calls, intended to cause disruption, were often made.

1970–1979
8 March 1973: The Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) conducted its first operation in England, planting four car bombs in London. Two bombs exploded, one near the Old Bailey and the other at Scotland Yard,killing one person and injuring 180 others. Ten members of the IRA unit, including Gerry Kelly, Dolours Price and Marian Price, were arrested at Heathrow Airport trying to leave the country. A car bomb left outside the post office in Broadway, Westminster outside New Scotland Yard was spotted and defused.
24 December 1973: The Provisional IRA left two packages which exploded almost simultaneously in the late evening on Christmas Eve. One was in the doorway of the North Star public house South Hampstead, which exploded injuring six people, and the other exploded on the upstairs verandah of the nearby Swiss Cottage Tavern where an unspecified number of people were injured.
17 June 1974: A bomb exploded at the Houses of Parliament in London, causing extensive damage and injuring 11 people.
17 July 1974 An explosion in the Tower of London left one person dead and 41 injured. This was the second bomb in London on this day. At 0430 BST there was an explosion at government buildings in Balham, South London. Nobody was injured in the morning blast but there was substantial damage to surrounding buildings.
7 November 1974: An off-duty soldier and a civilian were killed when a bomb was thrown through the window of the Kings Arms pub in Woolwich, and 28 people were injured.
21 December 1974: A bomb was defused in Harrods department store in Knightsbridge, London. A second bomb was defused in the King's Arms public house in Warminster, Wiltshire.
28 August 1975: Seven people were injured when a bomb exploded in Oxford Street, London, outside the south-east corner of Selfridges store. A telephone warning was issued to The Sun newspaper five minutes before the explosion.[11]
5 September 1975: Two people were killed and 63 injured when an IRA bomb exploded in the lobby of the Hilton hotel in London.
3 November 1975: Several people injured by a car bomb in Connaught Square, London W2.
6–12 December 1975: Four IRA members held two people hostage in the Balcombe Street Siege.
27 March 1976: A bomb placed by the Provisional IRA exploded in a litter bin at the top of an escalator in a crowded exhibition hall, Earl's Court. 20,000 people were attending the Daily Mail Ideal Home Exhibition at the time. 70 were injured, 4 people lost limbs.
30 March 1979, Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary Airey Neave was killed as he left the House of Commons car park by a car bomb planted by the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) in 1979.

1980–1989
10 October 1981: a bomb blast on Ebury Bridge Road next to Chelsea Barracks kills two people and injures 39.
26 October 1981: a bomb planted by the IRA in a Wimpy Bar on Oxford Street kills Kenneth Howorth, the Metropolitan Police explosives officer who is attempting to defuse it.
20 July 1982: Two bombs in Hyde Park and Regent's Park, London by the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) kill 11 members of the Household Cavalry and the Royal Green Jackets. Seven horses are also killed.
17 December 1983: Harrods was bombed by the IRA. Six people were killed (including three police officers) and 90 wounded during Christmas shopping at the West London department store. (See Harrods bombing)

1990–1999
16 May 1990: Wembley IRA detonate a bomb underneath a minibus killing Sgt Charles Chapman (The Queen's Regiment) and injuring another soldier. No one was ever convicted of Sgt Chapman's murder.
20 July 1990: London Stock Exchange, the IRA detonated a large bomb at the London Stock Exchange causing massive damage.
7 February 1991: Mortar attack on 10 Downing Street[
18 February 1991: A bomb explodes in Paddington Station, damaging the building's roof but causing no casualties. Three hours later another bomb explodes at Victoria Station. One man is killed and 38 people injured.
10 January 1992: Small device exploded. No injuries, Whitehall Place, London SW1.
28 February 1992: A bomb explodes at London Bridge station injuring 29 people.
10 April 1992: Baltic Exchange bombing: A large bomb explodes outside 30 St Mary Axe in the City of London. The bomb was contained in a large white truck and consisted of a fertiliser device wrapped with a detonation cord made from Semtex. It killed three people: Paul Butt, aged 29, Baltic Exchange employee Thomas Casey, aged 49, and 15-year old Danielle Carter. Several people were critically or severely injured. The bomb also caused damage to surrounding buildings (many of which were further damaged by a second bomb the following year). The bomb caused Ł800 million worth of damage—Ł200 million more than the total damage costs resulting from all 10,000 previous explosions that had occurred relating to the Troubles in Northern Ireland. A new skyscraper was built on the site of the previous historic building.
11 April 1992: A large bomb explodes underneath the A406 flyover at Staples Corner, causing serious damage to roads and nearby buildings including a B&Q DIY store and causing the closure of the junction. The blast was large enough to be felt many miles away.
12 October 1992: A device exploded in the gentlemen's toilet of the Sussex Arms public house in Covent Garden, killing one person and injuring four others.
16 November 1992: the IRA planted a bomb at Canary Wharf in the Docklands. The device was spotted by security guards and was deactivated safely.
17 December 1992: A bomb hidden in a litter bin in a third-floor men's lavatory of the John Lewis department store, Oxford Street, London, was detonated by the IRA just after 11 am. A second bomb exploded 15 minutes later at the rear of the store, in Cavendish Square, while shoppers and staff were still being evacuated. Four people were injured.
28 January 1993: a bomb exploded in a litter bin outside Harrods, injuring four people.
27 February 1993: a bomb exploded in a litter bin outside a McDonalds restaurant in Camden Town, injuring several people.[22]
24 April: 1993 Bishopsgate bombing: the IRA detonated a huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate, It killed journalist Ed Henty, injured over 40 people, and causing approximately Ł1 billion worth of damage,
including the near destruction of St Ethelburga's Bishopsgate church, and serious damage to Liverpool Street station. Police had received a coded warning, but were still evacuating the area at the time of the explosion. The insurance payments required were so large that Lloyd's of London almost went bankrupt under the strain, and there was a crisis in the London insurance market. The area had already suffered damage from the Baltic Exchange bombing the year before.
October 1993: Over eight days, a series of IRA bombs were left in various London locations. On 1 October, four bombs were left on Finchley Road, three of which exploded, causing damage to buildings and several injuries caused by falling glass. On 4 October, pairs of bombs were left in Highgate (where one failed to explode), Hornsey, and Archway, causing significant damage but no injuries. On 8 October, bombs exploded in Staples Corner and West Hampstead, again causing damage but no injuries.
March 1994: Heathrow Airport, The IRA launched a series of mortar attacks on the airport, partially paralysing the capital's main air route.
9 February: 1996 Docklands bombing: the IRA bombed the South Quay area of London, killing two people.
15 February 1996: A 5-pound (2.3 kg) bomb placed in a telephone box is disarmed by Police on the Charing Cross Road.
18 February 1996: An IRA bomb detonates prematurely on a bus travelling along Aldwych in central London, killing Edward O'Brien, the IRA terrorist transporting the device and injuring eight others.
29 April 1997: Britain's transport industry claimed minimum losses of Ł30 million after a series of IRA bomb alerts in southern England brought traffic to a standstill. In the London area, the Heathrow airport and the M25 motorway were closed.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

of course I have! we are talking about this war!
its a form of Guerrilla warfare in Ireland, and we may see more of the tactics that have been used in Ireland being used over here.

This form of terrorism is totally different, in Ireland there were targets, coded warnings and dialogue... With this there is no warning, just random acts of extreme and totally unexpected violence. That is why it is such a huge threat.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The definition of terrorism according to the Oxford English dictionary.



I despair of the UK and USA they are probably responsible for more terrorist attacks than any other nations in the world.
If you are going to dish it out in the pursuit of money then be prepared to get it back occasionally.
The ****ing media in this country turn my stomach what chance does anyone stand when you have the likes of ITV stating that a "muslim looking" couple of people were responsible for the murder of a soldier.
WTF does a muslim look like?

No actually the vast majority of terrorist attacks are by muslims against other muslims. You can't blame America or the UK for al queda setting off road side bombs or bombs in market places in afgahnistan and iraq for the past 10 years.

Muslim terrorists have killed far more muslim civilians than America's drones.


The Muslim world has been a violent **** hole for hundreds of years, since before the United States has even existed as a country. (the rest of the world has also been a violent **** hole, America and Europe included)

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Omah

Read on :

List of terrorist incidents in London

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...he_Troubles.22

you get a hard on im sure of it over this type of stuff!
yes those attacks happened over here by the ira! im saying that they may be used in new terrorist attacks.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by lostalex

No actually the vast majority of terrorist attacks are by muslims against other muslims. You can't blame America or the UK for al queda setting off road side bombs or bombs in market places in afgahnistan and iraq for the past 10 years.

Muslim terrorists have killed far more muslim civilians than America's drones.


The Muslim world has been a violent **** hole for hundreds of years, since before the United States has even existed as a country.

Do you have a source with figures that includes the terror campaigns waged by the UK and USA around the world?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Do you have a source?

yea, buy any world history book. Well any western history book. Maybe the history books in Gaza will tell you that mickey mouse caused all of the conflict in the muslim world. lol

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This form of terrorism is totally different, in Ireland there were targets, coded warnings and dialogue... With this there is no warning, just random acts of extreme and totally unexpected violence. That is why it is such a huge threat.

im talking about targeting soldiers like the ira did!
of course this is a huge threat because you don't know when or what the next attack will be or who they will target.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yea, buy any world history book.

So that is a no then.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you get a hard on im sure of it over this type of stuff!
yes those attacks happened over here by the ira! im saying that they may be used in new terrorist attacks.

You said the IRA was "a form of Guerrilla warfare in Ireland", which is patently wrong .....

Ever heard of the SOE .....