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BB14 Channel 5's Big Brother: Secrets and Lies (aka Big Brother 14) started June 13th 2013 and was won by Sam Evans.

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View Poll Results: Did Jemima deserve her warning?
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Old 17-06-2013, 10:24 PM #26
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Gina is just following the script that BB have given her, she's an unemployed model and BBs money is better than nowt!
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Old 17-06-2013, 10:44 PM #27
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I find BB's reaction more offensive than anything. Talk about over-sensitive...

It is also insulting that this is given the credence of being a 'race' issue when there are real hate crimes occurring all too frequently in the outside world.

Jemima was merely trying to clarify what she meant when she described the men she typically fancies the most as 'dark'! It is not exactly up there with the English Defence League's rhetoric.
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definitely not. I didn't find what she said racist in the slightest. she only got the warning because of gina's overreaction to the situation.
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Gina was already going on about Jemima being racist before Jemima even mentioned that Gina would 'probably' not rather than certainly not date white guys.

Absolutely not that Jemima deserved this silly warning in my view.
As Livia rightfully stated, it makes a mockery of genuine racist comments and activity.
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I don't think Jemima deserved that AT ALL, when did personal preference become a race issue?
IMO Gina should be reprimanded for pulling a race issue out of the air
That has ALWAYS been my issue with PC-ism.

These days you can ruin somebody's life, personally, professionally, socially and so on by using the "R" word.

It is not unlike the Salem witch trials or the McCarthy trials of the '50's(look it up Gen Y). In fact, the similarities are terrifyingly similar!

Since we are APPARENTLY so enlightened these days, I would like to live in a world where the VERY accusation of racism or homophobia(and I am gay, so I am being completely fair here!)is treated akin to accusing somebody of being a murderer or child molester.

If the very accusation can destroy somebody's life, the wielding of that "power" should be treated as EXTREMELY serious. Likewise if the charge is found untrue or considered to be frivilous(as in this case), the accuser should be made to pay DEARLY and/or in some way have their own reputation impuned.

It should cut BOTH ways - I am SICK TO DEATH of people having a joke or expressing an opinion and made to feel like pariahs. Everybody should just bloody grow up and get tougher skins!
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No she didn't deserve the warning.
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BB didn't label her a racist, just told her to watch what she says because it can be deemed racist.

Assuming a black girl won't be attracted to white guys is a racist attitude.

Jemima needed a warning so she can think about how ignorant she is, maybe she'll put her brain into gear before speaking.

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In fact, if BB have any decency ( or sense) they'd call Jemima back to the Diary room and make a public (plasma) apology! But then, again, pigs might fly!
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At worst the initial comment was insensitive, gina if genuinely offended would have handled the situation differently.
Jemima played right into her hands there, should have kept shtum at the first hint of provocation.
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2 formal warnings already, these people will be afraid to say anything, bb needs to let the hg's be
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2 formal warnings already, these people will be afraid to say anything, bb needs to let the hg's be
This is another reason why it shouldnt be done. BB is branding itself in all sorts of negative ways atm.

I just thought.. Maybe BB warned Jemima because BB warned Gina and didnt want her to feel targetted or something.
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I'm sorry, but I voted for yes. Gina was completely and utterly disgusting tonight, but the fact that Jemima said to a black girl "you probably wouldn't go out with a white guy" COULD be taken as racist to SOME people. The producers HAD to give her a warning for it, otherwise to the people that WOULD find it offensive and I can guarantee there were viewers that did, it would be seen as the show doing nothing again. After the Conor incident they have to cover their backs. It's a shame, but that's the way it is. Blame the Great British public for that, not Big Brother.
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I think it was a bit of a silly decision by BB and unfair. They try to cover their backside over every eventuality and the best thing Jemima could have done was walk away, but as has been said, you would try and fight your corner and some of the comments she used when retorting were just a bit wrong. Gina should learn some manners tbh and stop speaking to people like they were servants. She's not in The Savoy now.

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No. Well maybe. I think its better safe than sorry and I don't think Gina is stupid for being offended. Plus Jemima didn't help herself much at all though. She could have just explained to Gina calmly that she's not attracted to black men, not that she doesn't like them.
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yes, the dirty racist bitch
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Gina wanted to make an issue of it to get Jemima in trouble and it worked a treat.
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Absolute disgrace. I'm ashamed in Channel 5 - that move was something I'd expect from Channel 4.

It's like Marcus and Sree all over again. All this because they've lost their bollocks after Jade Goody, it's been 6 odd years - move on.
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Kindof. I wasn't so much bothered by her initial comments about not going for black guys, but when she said that Gina wouldn't go for white guys, I found that to be racist. Maybe not worthy of a formal warning, but I can see why she got it.
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shame on the producers yet again, this banal idiocy is already enough reason to ensure I watch no more of this cretinous drivel...enjoy

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Finally watched the ep and WTF?! I can't believe that played out how it did!

Jemima was talking about her personal preference when it comes to the 'look' of her ideal bloke. Which happens to be "dark", "Mediterranean", "not black". HOW THE ****** CAN THAT BE CONSTRUED AS RACIST?! Is she not allowed to have a preference or something? I'm actually at a loss. It's like Marcus and Sree all over again, as was noted above. Complete over reaching PC garbage. And I thought we had it bad in Canada with this kind of stuff...

Not really surprised Gina played that card and then pressed it. Good on Jemima for sticking to her guns, but I would have liked to see her tell BB to ****** right off. I can't believe that's a warning. So beyond ridiculous.

Sidenote: I thought Gina was Asian until tonight. That's what happens when you cake on so many layers of makeup.

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it was stupid, and just shows how terrible of a show Big Brother has become
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