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24-03-2014, 06:44 PM | #1 | |||
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24-03-2014, 06:46 PM | #2 | |||
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well what else are they good for? Would you prefer we have them taxidermied and placed as decoration around the hospital?
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24-03-2014, 06:47 PM | #3 | |||
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No they should be paid respect to and not be used as money saving techniques for hospitals
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24-03-2014, 06:49 PM | #4 | |||
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they aren't people, they were tumors. should we also anthropomorphize cancer patient's tumors?
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24-03-2014, 08:35 PM | #5 | ||
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It is disturbing that this is a practice that is apparantly acceptable for hospitals to do.
I myself would prefer better treatment to this issue than being incinerated with waste. However, I may be heading into being controversial here with agreeing with lostalex,(not controversial as to agreeing with lostalex because I do agree with a lot he posts across all areas of this forum anyway),as to this matter. If the parent does not want to do anything as to the terminated foetus and makes no opinion either way when going for termination,although I can agree it could be done better I cannot really condemn the hospitals for this practice. I am open to persuasion as to the issue however. Last edited by joeysteele; 24-03-2014 at 08:39 PM. |
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24-03-2014, 09:02 PM | #6 | |||
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This is one of the most self indulgent inflammatory headlines I have ever read. I tend to agree with Alex in the last post but one, these are not people but they are not just clinical waste either.
Not sure why this was put into the mainstream news arena, unpalatable and unsavoury things like this happen and to be honest it's better sometimes not to know..
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24-03-2014, 09:02 PM | #7 | |||
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fight global warming!
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24-03-2014, 09:47 PM | #8 | |||
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It was suggested in one borough that crematoriums are used to create energy, I'm not totally adverse to it actually.
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24-03-2014, 10:10 PM | #9 | ||
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This sounds totally gruesome on first read..but thinking about it properly..I don't really see a big problem with this. As awful as it sounds..it is medical waste. And its not too different to being cremated. If the parents don't want the remains..what are they meant to do with them?
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24-03-2014, 11:04 PM | #10 | |||
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"The programme, which will air tonight, found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted about what they wanted to happen to the remains."
Why would you care what happened to it if you didn't care to have it? I'm not judging, I just don't really know why this is being turned into SUCH a big deal. Being morally outraged by this is fine if you believe abortion is wrong but if you're not against abortion then I would argue that finding this offensive suggests you maybe need to rethink your stance on the issue. To me it's no different than a corpse being donated to science or donating organs; might as well be useful in some way instead of costing someone money to be buried and left to waste away. |
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24-03-2014, 11:14 PM | #11 | ||
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I'm assuming. The term "lose" doesn't describe abortion to me. |
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24-03-2014, 11:22 PM | #12 | |||
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24-03-2014, 11:35 PM | #13 | |||
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However they are lost if they wish to take the remains and hold a funeral then that is totally their choice, however if they don't then yes I assume they are classed as medical waste.
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25-03-2014, 08:56 AM | #14 | ||
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I dont think may parents would want to keep the remains of an early miscarriage tbh. It isnt nice and basically (slightly graphic)
Spoiler: Later miscarriages I can understand as they might want to get the child buried or something.
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25-03-2014, 08:59 AM | #15 | |||
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wasn't there a story about how Barbera Bush had a miscarriage early on and she kept it in a jar and she showed it to George W Bush? I remember hearing something like that during the 2004 election...
Maybe it was The Onion or John Stewart or something, but i do remember that...
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25-03-2014, 08:59 AM | #16 | |||
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I'm not clicking that, vicky please don't tell me that's a pic of a miscarriage?....
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25-03-2014, 09:02 AM | #17 | |||
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dead is dead. The sooner we incinerate all dead bodies the better and dig up graveyards for housing.
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25-03-2014, 09:03 AM | #18 | |||
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25-03-2014, 09:04 AM | #19 | |||
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It's not, it's a description of a miscarriage
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25-03-2014, 09:04 AM | #20 | |||
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well the thing in the jar was still better than Putin.
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25-03-2014, 09:10 AM | #21 | |||
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25-03-2014, 10:01 AM | #22 | |||
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wait, so you're saying you were lying about the part about the afterbirth being President? or the part about George Bush being the afterbirth? i'm confused.
There really is something strange in a jar in Barbara Bush's house though, i'm convinced of that...
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25-03-2014, 10:24 AM | #23 | |||
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Only the CIA knows...
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25-03-2014, 11:05 AM | #24 | ||
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The description isnt even that graphic tbh but I thought it might need a warning as its ot a nice thing to talk about :/
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25-03-2014, 11:08 AM | #25 | ||
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It's grim but I wouldn't have a problem with aborted remains being used that way, obviously it's different if the baby was lost and there's a body.
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