[Yoshi888]

Do you think this was an involuntary movement from her or was she trying to get Ash to engage in fornication?

[rubymoo]

Only she would know.

[Northern Monkey]

She was trying provoke a reaction.......

[Achilles]

I reckon they were just both horny

[Novo]

Whatever gave you that idea

[Northern Monkey]

I hope he had a spare fiver down his shorts,I've heard that's the going rate for a butt grind.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I hope he had a spare fiver down his shorts,I've heard that's the going rate for a butt grind.

With Helen that's only 50p, a fiver will get you bareback anal.

Ash has opened a tab, he says he'll get her two chup-a-chup lollies and a Happy Meal when they get out. She offered to rim him if he'd throw in a McFlurry, but that a bit steep for his money.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

With Helen that's only 50p, a fiver will get you bareback anal.

Ash has opened a tab, he says he'll get her two chup-a-chup lollies and a Happy Meal when they get out. She offered to rim him if he'd throw in a McFlurry, but that a bit steep for his money.

[Kizzy]

Urgh.. how derogatory grow up for gods sake.

[Verbal]

Now I know I posted in this thread, why are my posts getting randomly deleted and i'm getting infractions for the most ridiculous reasons?

[Samwell]

She has been payed by 500 men for sex, and she has probably had sex with atleast 100 without money. A conservative guess is that at least 200 men has played with her ass.

[Marsh.]

[Daffodil]

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Daffodil

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

I have no real problem with prostiturion / escorting, to be fair. I'm sure there are many prostitutes / escorts who are perfectly nice, civilized people.

Helen isn't one of them.

Helen isn't an escort.

Helen is a jaded old hooker, for OH SO MANY reasons, not just because of how she makes money.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I have no real problem with prostiturion / escorting, to be fair. I'm sure there are many prostitutes / escorts who are perfectly nice, civilized people.

Helen isn't one of them.

Helen isn't an escort.

Helen is a jaded old hooker, for OH SO MANY reasons, not just because of how she makes money.

Not that it makes a bloody difference, but she was not the stereotypical, heroin addicted, street walker that you are trying to make out. She was an Escort. And it was a job she did to support her and her daughter. Which, sadly, is a route a lot of young women feel they need to take these days in order to support themselves.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Daffodil

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

I totally agree and it seems strange to me that the so called 'star' of a previous CBB was spawned from a show that glamorised casual sex, lewd crude acts, fighting, binge drinking and anti social behaviour.
The apologists for this hedonism claimed she was 'young', as helen was 'young' when she was escorting can she be forgiven her past misdemeanors?... Seems not.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Daffodil

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

This thread also shows some people are so serious and miserable that they cant see a joke when one is out there.

If it's not your kind of humour then so be it, but why go calling people Immature?

[sampvt]

Prostitution is just marriage without a ring.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by wannashag

This thread also shows some people are so serious and miserable that they cant see a joke when one is out there.

If it's not your kind of humour then so be it, but why go calling people Immature?

I'm not serious or miserable, I have a very different interpretation of humour to you though obviously.
I would say name calling is immature too, it's a bit ironic to defend making defamatory remarks and labeling and then complain when someone labels you.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Not that it makes a bloody difference, but she was not the stereotypical, heroin addicted, street walker that you are trying to make out. She was an Escort. And it was a job she did to support her and her daughter. Which, sadly, is a route a lot of young women feel they need to take these days in order to support themselves.

I'm not trying to "make out" anything and drug use has never been mentioned, not street walking. Nor is it relevant how or why she turned to selling sex, so save the sob story. Like I said, I'm sure there are many escorts / prostitutes / sex workers who are perfectly good people.

Helen isn't one of them.

My opinion of Helen is based PURELY on what we have seen of her... in the house, in the press, in interviews on other shows. Not all sex workers. Just Helen.

She is a jaded old hooker.

She is quite blatantly a nasty, aggressive, thick-as-pig-**** waste of space. A bully who gets thrills and jollies from isolating and belittling other people. It's absolutely insane that some (a lot of??) people seem to want to paint her as some sort of poor little underdog, swept away by a terrible life... someone who has turned her life around and now has a heart-of-gold. It's a complete fantasy. And like I said - I can ONLY imagine it's a delusion that's been created so that people still feel comfortable watching a show that they love, who can't quite admit that this woman may well be one of the final nails in the BB coffin. A fact that seems to be backed up by plummeting viewing figures and many dedicated, old-time fans finally giving up hope. It's an absolute joke. She's obviously used her sex work, specifically with celebrities, to gain notoriety and now has been headhunted to appear in a reality show off the back of it. Bleating on about not having wanted the stories to go public (ERR, Yes OK...) but then using said stories in a desperate, clawing attempt to gain z-list celebrity. It's ****ing foul.

But by all means, continue to rewrite the narrative is it makes you feel better. Helen is a lovely, delicate flower who people don't like simply because of how she "used to" (...) make money. . She's been nothing but a joy to behold! Made the series, she has. A revolutionary! Never before has a contestant thought to replace traditional "sentences" with rancid vaginal belches of vitriol. A true classic.


OH and Kizzy... you are smart enough to know that defamation only refers to statements that are demonstrably untrue. People are being scathing, that much is true, but please... quote me just ONE piece of defamation.

[Verbal]

tl;dr can someone summarize that for me?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Urgh.. how derogatory grow up for gods sake.

Exactly Kizbot.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not trying to "make out" anything and drug use has never been mentioned, not street walking. Nor is it relevant how or why she turned to selling sex, so save the sob story. Like I said, I'm sure there are many escorts / prostitutes / sex workers who are perfectly good people.

Helen isn't one of them.

My opinion of Helen is based PURELY on what we have seen of her... in the house, in the press, in interviews on other shows. Not all sex workers. Just Helen.

She is a jaded old hooker.

She is quite blatantly a nasty, aggressive, thick-as-pig-**** waste of space. A bully who gets thrills and jollies from isolating and belittling other people. It's absolutely insane that some (a lot of??) people seem to want to paint her as some sort of poor little underdog, swept away by a terrible life... someone who has turned her life around and now has a heart-of-gold. It's a complete fantasy. And like I said - I can ONLY imagine it's a delusion that's been created so that people still feel comfortable watching a show that they love, who can't quite admit that this woman may well be one of the final nails in the BB coffin. A fact that seems to be backed up by plummeting viewing figures and many dedicated, old-time fans finally giving up hope. It's an absolute joke. She's obviously used her sex work, specifically with celebrities, to gain notoriety and now has been headhunted to appear in a reality show off the back of it. Bleating on about not having wanted the stories to go public (ERR, Yes OK...) but then using said stories in a desperate, clawing attempt to gain z-list celebrity. It's ****ing foul.

But by all means, continue to rewrite the narrative is it makes you feel better. Helen is a lovely, delicate flower who people don't like simply because of how she "used to" (...) make money. . She's been nothing but a joy to behold! Made the series, she has. A revolutionary! Never before has a contestant thought to replace traditional "sentences" with rancid vaginal belches of vitriol. A true classic.


OH and Kizzy... you are smart enough to know that defamation only refers to statements that are demonstrably untrue. People are being scathing, that much is true, but please... quote me just ONE piece of defamation.

How about this one?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not trying to "make out" anything and drug use has never been mentioned, not street walking. Nor is it relevant how or why she turned to selling sex, so save the sob story. Like I said, I'm sure there are many escorts / prostitutes / sex workers who are perfectly good people.

Helen isn't one of them.

My opinion of Helen is based PURELY on what we have seen of her... in the house, in the press, in interviews on other shows. Not all sex workers. Just Helen.

She is a jaded old hooker.

She is quite blatantly a nasty, aggressive, thick-as-pig-**** waste of space. A bully who gets thrills and jollies from isolating and belittling other people. It's absolutely insane that some (a lot of??) people seem to want to paint her as some sort of poor little underdog, swept away by a terrible life... someone who has turned her life around and now has a heart-of-gold. It's a complete fantasy. And like I said - I can ONLY imagine it's a delusion that's been created so that people still feel comfortable watching a show that they love, who can't quite admit that this woman may well be one of the final nails in the BB coffin. A fact that seems to be backed up by plummeting viewing figures and many dedicated, old-time fans finally giving up hope. It's an absolute joke. She's obviously used her sex work, specifically with celebrities, to gain notoriety and now has been headhunted to appear in a reality show off the back of it. Bleating on about not having wanted the stories to go public (ERR, Yes OK...) but then using said stories in a desperate, clawing attempt to gain z-list celebrity. It's ****ing foul.

But by all means, continue to rewrite the narrative is it makes you feel better. Helen is a lovely, delicate flower who people don't like simply because of how she "used to" (...) make money. . She's been nothing but a joy to behold! Made the series, she has. A revolutionary! Never before has a contestant thought to replace traditional "sentences" with rancid vaginal belches of vitriol. A true classic.


OH and Kizzy... you are smart enough to know that defamation only refers to statements that are demonstrably untrue. People are being scathing, that much is true, but please... quote me just ONE piece of defamation.

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from a tawdry episode in her life.
And that's not the only one she is using to gain some sort of notoriety either..

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by jet

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from a tawdry episode in her life.

Exactly. She isn't just an ex prostitute, she is a disgusting, vile, abusive, nasty piece of work, who just so happens to be an ex prostitute...