[HBB1508]

I don't find Chris creepy at all and I'm glad he explained himself last night. People judging him by their own sorry standards is just wrong imo.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree actually that he isn't creepy,I have no problem either with his friendship with Ashleigh,they both seem content as friends and that has nothing to do with anyone.

I for instance am 22 and I have female friends who are in their 40s and indeed into and well over their 50s too,I call them friends on an equal status with friends more my own age and I would never consider that or them creepy at all.

So yes, I agree Chris shouldn't be thought of as creepy,Ashleigh is 18 and even if it were more than friendship, which obvously it isn't, they are infact both adults anyway.

I don't get this 'issue' with age, to me age is just a number, meaningless,it is the people that matter not the ages of them.

yeah agree with this.I think the more "creepy" thing was the posessiveness and trying to ward Pav off.None of his business.

[Jords]

I dont find the fact he fancies Ashleigh (which he obviously does) creepy but the constant concern and attention he gives to Pav and his 'stares' is. I dont mind Chris but its been a bad week pal.

[duclos]

He's not creepy. He's just a bit awkward. Remember he said he's always been an outsider and I feel the same way. I would be a bit awkward if I was in the house and most definitely not creepy.

[bitontheslide]

I noticed in that recent video uploaded where Chris discusses age with Ashleigh, when he said i want to be friends with you forever, she responded with single word yes answers over and over again .....doesn't strike me as a friendship at all

[Tarryn]

This really annoys me.
So when a person get's to 30 they should stop fancying anyone younger than them ?.
I don't see Ashleigh complaining about the attention she receives.
Chris is her friend. The people who say it's creepy have their own issues.
It's no other persons business who they fancy. Get a life.
For me, the Chris/Ashleigh friendship is the only true one in there.

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

This really annoys me.
So when a person get's to 30 they should stop fancying anyone younger than them ?.
I don't see Ashleigh complaining about the attention she receives.
Chris is her friend. The people who say it's creepy have their own issues.
It's no other persons business who they fancy. Get a life.
For me, the Chris/Ashleigh friendship is the only true one in there.

[Tip]

I don't think it's anything to do with fancying Ashleigh -
It may be to do with his awkwardness.

"Creepy" may be an empty term - hard to objectify - but it is more like an instinctive kind of reaction - rightly or wrongly.

I found Chris difficult to watch when he was talking to Helen and the whole "tears" thing too - as well as the weird interaction with Pav. Maybe it is just because he comes across as a bit socially inept, I'm not sure, but it can be really uncomfortable to watch his interactions at times.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Tip

I don't think it's anything to do with fancying Ashleigh -
It may be to do with his awkwardness.

"Creepy" may be an empty term - hard to objectify - but it is more like an instinctive kind of reaction - rightly or wrongly.

I found Chris difficult to watch when he was talking to Helen and the whole "tears" thing too - as well as the weird interaction with Pav. Maybe it is just because he comes across as a bit socially inept, I'm not sure, but it can be really uncomfortable to watch his interactions at times.

I get that sometimes he is awkward & I really wish he did not seek Helen's approval so much but being awkward is not his fault, it's just who he is.
Calling him creepy is really nasty. Some people find it difficult to express their emotions.

[Tip]

I agree "creepy" is a very unpleasant term. I also admit that he has made my "skin crawl" in a number of occasions and I do associate "creepiness" with that - but I'm not saying there's anything right about it - just the way I reacted on occasions - so I have understood where people have come from when they say it.

It could be just that his kind of awkwardness does better in real life interaction and doesn't travel well down the tv lens.

[Tip]

Edited out - forum lag caused a double post :P

[jscoo47]

Originally Posted by Tip

I don't think it's anything to do with fancying Ashleigh -
It may be to do with his awkwardness.

"Creepy" may be an empty term - hard to objectify - but it is more like an instinctive kind of reaction - rightly or wrongly.

I found Chris difficult to watch when he was talking to Helen and the whole "tears" thing too - as well as the weird interaction with Pav. Maybe it is just because he comes across as a bit socially inept, I'm not sure, but it can be really uncomfortable to watch his interactions at times.

I believe that Chris feels intimidated by Helen. If I was in the house I might well have done the same as Chris, ie trying to form some kind of bond to make her bitching stop. Like many other I feel he is awkward in social situations, but nobody betters him in the diary room, he is always spot on

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

His treatment of Pav regarding Ashleigh and his general need to be the White Knight when it isn't needed is what makes him creepy. Not the fact he fancies her.

Spot on Brother Leon. He is beginning to make my skin crawl now. I am looking at him in a whole different light and I used to really like him

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree actually that he isn't creepy,I have no problem either with his friendship with Ashleigh,they both seem content as friends and that has nothing to do with anyone.

I for instance am 22 and I have female friends who are in their 40s and indeed into and well over their 50s too,I call them friends on an equal status with friends more my own age and I would never consider that or them creepy at all.

So yes, I agree Chris shouldn't be thought of as creepy,Ashleigh is 18 and even if it were more than friendship, which obvously it isn't, they are infact both adults anyway.

I don't get this 'issue' with age, to me age is just a number, meaningless,it is the people that matter not the ages of them.

Brilliant post......

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

He was just warning Pav off....if he was a dog he'd have pee'd around her

Bearing in mind how the three past HMs had blackened Pav's name and how the public had reacted to Pav on eviction nights, Chris was looking out for him. As he said it was told in private (they do forget the cameras lol). Pav was always seeking confirmation as to why and what happened at that task. Chris was honest with him whereas Mark shied away from the truth. Chris has always been honest so we cannot knock him when Pav sought the truth. What is the point of asking if one is told lies?

Nothing creepy about Chris...

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Lstan

this was kinda what i was about to say-people only started calling him creepy when he did this. i wonder if he would still be doing it if not for the public power task.

I think you will find that the name was given to him on one instance in the house. Cant remember by whom. When the others were talking "filth" etc. he would creep away from the situation and sit on his own or with Ashleigh and Danielle. They to did not like the chat. Fair dos, let those who want to be sordid do so but not everyone has to listen so he had the right to do so.

It is narrowminded people who have put the age factor into play, now if a good looking bloke like Ash and of the same age were in the same situation, would he have been criticised? No one would have thought anything of it.

Chris gave a good talk in the DR directed at the public, he talked sense and a lot of people should take note. As I have said it was Ashleigh who instigated the friendship further, are we questioning her motives? No need to she needed support and friendship in, at that time, a negative house.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Waynoo

he's a creep end of

Oh to be so wise.........end of!!!

[Kazanne]

I like Chris ,the only thing I didn't like was his warning to Pav,the guy must have felt a tad akward,Ashleigh is not his property,she doesn't need a baby sitter,and I'm sure she is quite capable of telling Pav herself,she hasn't a problem with it,so Chris should just leave it alone.

[Denver]

It is when your telling men not to look at her

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by adamski94

It is when your telling men not to look at her

Not if you are under the impression they are perving because you have been fed that information from ex housemates. Notice how BB completely edited out the Danielle reference TWICE from the main highlights show? Did you notice that?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Not if you are under the impression they are perving because you have been fed that information from ex housemates. Notice how BB completely edited out the Danielle reference TWICE from the main highlights show? Did you notice that?

Dannielle admitted she made it up because she was bitter at the end of the day he had no right to confront pav

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Dannielle admitted she made it up because she was bitter at the end of the day he had no right to confront pav

Ashleigh is Chris' friend. He loves her as a friend, thinks the world of her as he has stated several times. Danielle said to Ashleigh, Chris and Mark that Pav was infatuated with Ashleigh and always staring. That part of the conversation was edited out of the main highlights show. It was edited out AGAIN on the most recent main highlights show. A casual viewer has no idea that Danielle said those comments to the Power Alliance.
Because of the heavy boos, Chris believe that what the ex housemates said was true, so he was being protective of his friend.
IF Pav WAS a perv, would Chris be in the wrong for looking out for Ashleigh, his FRIEND?
He is only wrong because he was given misinformation from bitter ex housemates and a bigot crowd mislead him

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Ashleigh is Chris' friend. He loves her as a friend, thinks the world of her as he has stated several times. Danielle said to Ashleigh, Chris and Mark that Pav was infatuated with Ashleigh and always staring. That part of the conversation was edited out of the main highlights show. It was edited out AGAIN on the most recent main highlights show. A casual viewer has no idea that Danielle said those comments to the Power Alliance.
Because of the heavy boos, Chris believe that what the ex housemates said was true, so he was being protective of his friend.
IF Pav WAS a perv, would Chris be in the wrong for looking out for Ashleigh, his FRIEND?
He is only wrong because he was given misinformation from bitter ex housemates and a bigot crowd mislead him

Even ashliegh boyfreind said he should not of said anything