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23-05-2015, 09:43 AM | #126 | |||
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RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian" |
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23-05-2015, 09:52 AM | #127 | ||
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No more or less relevant than anyone else making suppositions (that it was planned, calculated, that he is clearly evil), surely, and therefore by your reasoning, the entire thread is irrelevant unless entirely neutral.
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23-05-2015, 09:55 AM | #128 | |||
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That's all we do and can know. You made connections where there were none based on the opinions of some, that is entirely unjustified. You can't preempt from one scenario how anyone would react to another.
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23-05-2015, 10:02 AM | #129 | ||
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For the mostpart all I have said is exactly what you just said, only with the (correct) addition that becoming temporarily unhinged and carrying out an otherwise unthinkable act is something that can happen to literally anyone. People don't like that. And of course that it is quite obviously less serious because it's JUST A DOG, and whilst it is sad, it's not comparible to the killing of a human. Morally, psychologically or in the eyes of the law. People really don't like that. |
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23-05-2015, 10:05 AM | #130 | |||
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Yes Big Error getting a Dog , Ammi. Last edited by arista; 23-05-2015 at 10:05 AM. |
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23-05-2015, 10:08 AM | #131 | |||
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23-05-2015, 10:09 AM | #132 | ||
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23-05-2015, 10:09 AM | #133 | |||
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The sick bastard should be hiding his head UNDER A RAINCOAT or BLANKET. Remorseful my Arse. |
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23-05-2015, 10:10 AM | #134 | |||
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23-05-2015, 10:12 AM | #135 | ||
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It is literally impossible to tell from one or two still images, kirk. I could take a video of someone in extreme distress and selectively pause it to make it look like they're laughing.
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23-05-2015, 10:12 AM | #136 | |||
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23-05-2015, 10:16 AM | #137 | |||
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I've seen that scruffy bloated lawyer on telly somewhere.
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23-05-2015, 10:19 AM | #138 | |||
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23-05-2015, 10:33 AM | #139 | |||
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..it's strange that you use such emotive descriptions as..somewhat ridiculous notion that the dog would have been torn limb from limb and disembowelled in order to locate a sub-dermal microchip..(when no one has actually said that in the thread or anything like it..)...yet you seem to be inferring that people don't like something because of a 'fluffy' type thing which is based on emotion, I can't recall exactly how you described it..and I'm not sure what you feel people don't like/what you have decided they don't like....no one has suggested that this man should be imprisoned for life, meet the same fate as they dog he killed in any real way other than a 'reaction' throw away remark type way and many people make those remarks, even have those feelings on instinct but that's as far as they go isn't it, outrage/anger/annoyance etc....but this guy actually acted on his feelings, he must have felt those things as well but he actually acted on them....a scenario as well/another scenario...is that the dog was extremely annoying to him, drove him crazy with her barking...(if indeed she barked day and night..)...he had a heart attack and blamed the dog for the stress and caused it, felt she had contributed to that and his health..(there is no medical evidence of any contributing factor but just part of a 'defence' plea..)...but in his mind she was the cause...he was suspended form his job after the incident and the charges against him because his colleagues refused to work with him so there was no choice..again the dog's fault because this was basically all spiralling his life down, so she was the cause of all of this or a big contributory factor...no evidence of this of course, no other neighbours making complaints...so he really hated that dog, he hated that dog to an extent that he felt she had fairly much ruined so much stuff in his life and he saw an opportunity and he killed her because it was all her fault...and then after that 'moment of madness..'...he then realised that this act was probably not going to do much to set his life back on a positive again so he tried to cover it up/unsuccessfully....another possible scenario...that he had a mind-set of such 'hatred and blame' that he could do something like this...no moments of madness just a very mean spirited and cruel person who could not accept that things happen in your life to make it spiral down sometimes and he had to find blame/excuses and reasons and very misplaced ones... ..yeah big error to think of something that may bring some happiness to their disabled daughter, Arista... Last edited by Ammi; 23-05-2015 at 10:38 AM. |
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23-05-2015, 10:34 AM | #140 | ||
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23-05-2015, 10:55 AM | #141 | ||
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Am I, doctor? Oh dear. I take this to mean that you ARE a vegetarian? |
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23-05-2015, 10:57 AM | #142 | |||
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23-05-2015, 11:02 AM | #143 | |||
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What has being a vegetarian got to do with being disgusted by a person slaughtering a dog because it barked?
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23-05-2015, 11:06 AM | #144 | ||
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Someone else, completely without evidence, also mentioned "torture". I'm not the one being emotive. I'm not the one overly invested in the fate of someone elses dog? |
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23-05-2015, 11:14 AM | #145 | ||
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The actual explanation is that people are sentimental about dogs but are not sentimental about other animals in the same way, even though there is no objective difference between a dog and a pig. Actually, maybe it's just "pets"? People would probably be horrified if someone came along and stole someones pet piggy from their garden and ate it on some nice white bread with ketchup. They don't give a **** about eating bacon from the supermarket. The conclusion there, then, is that it actually has nothing AT ALL to do with the animal itself and it's purely down to the prescribed attachment and humanisation of the individual animal. All of the above in summary: People are emotionally inconsistent and live in a fantasy world where pets become people. |
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23-05-2015, 11:15 AM | #146 | |||
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I'm not sure why you've chosen to defend this man in his decision when rattled to snuff out the object of his ire, or condemn anyone who challenges his actions as being less sympathetic to the ills affecting the human race.
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23-05-2015, 11:20 AM | #147 | |||
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Man does a have a different relationship with dogs than pigs that's been well documented over time, I've never heard 'a pig is a mans best friend'. :/
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23-05-2015, 11:23 AM | #148 | |||
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At the opposite end of the scale: there are people upset by the death of this dog who proudly proclaim "lolz, Darwin awardz" for dead teenagers. Just... what. What is that? |
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23-05-2015, 11:24 AM | #149 | |||
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..anyway in this case, there is no 'evidence' to any of his defence or excuses etc...he had a heart attack, I would presume that is true but no medical diagnosis of a barking dog being a contributory factor and not even any evidence of how much the dog barked because apparently he complained to the Council but no confirmation of his reports from them...he didn't say anything to his neighbours about his stress with their dog or try to talk to them..(they said that and he hasn't denied it so I'll presume that's true..)..he lost his job with this incident and act of his/lost the trust and respect of his fellow workers and had probably spent much time off work anyway with his heart issues..so fairly much all in all a very stressful time and over a long period of time and maybe enough to 'snap' as you say..?..but that doesn't mean/none of that means a dog being a contributory factor..none of that means that a dog was being neglected...none of that means that the dog indeed incessantly barked...the psychology..?...in his mind it did, the dog was responsible in some way but only in his mind because there is no evidence/facts atm to say otherwise... |
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23-05-2015, 11:27 AM | #150 | ||
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The humanisation and projected emotions of people on animals isn't "pseudo" psychology at all. No, you've never heard "a pig is man's best friend" but a dog doesn't know that it's supposedly man's best friend any more than a pig does. It ALL comes from the people and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the animal. Dogs, cats and other pers do not "love people" any more than cows or pigs do. The distinction is human, not natural, therefore reading a newspaper in the morning and getting upset about a dead dog whilst munching on a bacon sandwich is complete selective bias.
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