[Liberty4eva]

I know most people on here were for Remain but, your personal views aside, do you think the outcome of the vote should be respected? Or are you okay with the government ignoring the will of the majority? Would you want the UK to remain in the EU even if it meant ignoring democracy?

[Rob!]

It probably should be but at the same time it's quite clear the government have absolutely no idea how to actually make any of it happen or how to make a success of it. I think it really needs to be considered that at least half of the exiters voted for quite the wrong reason.

[Ammi]

..of course it should be respected but I still don't see it as a good outcome, though...(and it would be the same if it had slightly favoured Remain also..)..just because it's been a fairly split vote..so really a dividing vote, which could never be good for a country, surely..it's more now..(and this is the unknown for the moment/unknown is always a little scary..)...how other countries will view us in terms of trade etc and just generally...will us being seen as a divided country cause a reluctance to trade with us..?../I honestly don't know...

[lewis111]

No it shouldn't be respected as the Brexit campaign was built on false hope and lies
Where's the promised Ł350m to the NHS every week or month of whatever it was

There needs to be another vote where both sides are honest because so many were manipulated into thinking Leave was better when it's all just lies

[Toy Soldier]

There are two answers to this really. If it is a process that is feasible without utterly destroying the country then yes it should be respected and we should move forward with that.

If however it turns out to be the case that it is practically impossible to make it happen, or impossible without knowingly destroying the country, then theres no "honour" in simply forging forward "because democracy". To be clear, I don't mean it being up for debate and some people thinking it will be bad, but rather it becoming straight up fact upon examination that untangling from the EU is all but impossible without creating a failed state.

In that case I would 100% blame the government of the time for offering a vote on something when they didn't even know if it would be possible to realistically make it happen.

[bitontheslide]

of course it should be respected. To not respect it would fail democracy. So we exit and all is not perfect, so what. Was life perfect in the EU? No, it wasn't, life isn't perfect. We deal with situations as they arise, we react to events around us, and we will be able to do that much more effectively on our own than in the EU. So the result didn't go the way many wanted it to, again, so what. Life isn't going to change in a generation at least. We may see some fluctuation in prices, but again ... is that the be all and end all of life? People live with their families in their communities, and it has feck all to do with being in the EU or not.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

of course it should be respected. To not respect it would fail democracy. So we exit and all is not perfect, so what. Was life perfect in the EU? No, it wasn't, life isn't perfect. We deal with situations as they arise, we react to events around us, and we will be able to do that much more effectively on our own than in the EU. So the result didn't go the way many wanted it to, again, so what. Life isn't going to change in a generation at least. We may see some fluctuation in prices, but again ... is that the be all and end all of life? People live with their families in their communities, and it has feck all to do with being in the EU or not.

....hmm, I don't know...for some it might be.../many families can't sustain a recession is a thing as well...

[arista]

Yes it must be respected
it was a rare event in the UK
more came out to vote on it.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmm, I don't know...for some it might be.../many families can't sustain a recession is a thing as well...

Well, if you compare that to what the Russian people had to deal with in our recent history, where all government effectively broke down. Where shops literally had no food in them. Where people actually had to go to the zoo and kill animals for food to survive. We are never going to have life that hard. Many here have no real concept of what hardship is on the mass scale that other countries have had to endure. That's not to play down the extreme hardship of some, but just some realistic comparison. People are resilient, they can overcome almost any challenge put in front of them. I was a remain voter, and proud of it, but I accept democracy, and look forward to the challenges that life brings. We shape our own futures in the circumstances we find ourselves in. That's life!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

of course it should be respected. To not respect it would fail democracy. So we exit and all is not perfect, so what. Was life perfect in the EU? No, it wasn't, life isn't perfect. We deal with situations as they arise, we react to events around us, and we will be able to do that much more effectively on our own than in the EU. So the result didn't go the way many wanted it to, again, so what. Life isn't going to change in a generation at least. We may see some fluctuation in prices, but again ... is that the be all and end all of life? People live with their families in their communities, and it has feck all to do with being in the EU or not.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Well, if you compare that to what the Russian people had to deal with in our recent history, where all government effectively broke down. Where shops literally had no food in them. Where people actually had to go to the zoo and kill animals for food to survive. We are never going to have life that hard. Many here have no real concept of what hardship is on the mass scale that other countries have had to endure. That's not to play down the extreme hardship of some, but just some realistic comparison. People are resilient, they can overcome almost any challenge put in front of them. I was a remain voter, and proud of it, but I accept democracy, and look forward to the challenges that life brings. We shape our own futures in the circumstances we find ourselves in. That's life!

Again I agree

[Cherie]

The only other thing I would add is given we don't know the "terms" of the exit, if they are extremely different to what people thought they were voting for then maybe there should be another vote?

[UserSince2005]

Cant get over the remain campaign and thier lack of respect for democracy, no wonder they want to be a part of the quasi dictatorship that is the EU. Disgusting people.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Well, if you compare that to what the Russian people had to deal with in our recent history, where all government effectively broke down. Where shops literally had no food in them. Where people actually had to go to the zoo and kill animals for food to survive. We are never going to have life that hard. Many here have no real concept of what hardship is on the mass scale that other countries have had to endure. That's not to play down the extreme hardship of some, but just some realistic comparison. People are resilient, they can overcome almost any challenge put in front of them. I was a remain voter, and proud of it, but I accept democracy, and look forward to the challenges that life brings. We shape our own futures in the circumstances we find ourselves in. That's life!

..it never really lessens any anxieties/any fears/stresses and worries etc to be aware that others are worse off../it just doesn't work that way...our own realities are our own realities and some are very, very scary and hard to struggle through with and so are as huge as any other..there is no 'rating' these things for those living them and no comparison....it will be harder for some than others is the fact and the truth, I think and not all will survive sadly, for different reasons ..and that's life but hard to think that it could have been a different outcome and not an inevitable thing....anyways it is what it is and I should never get into serious threads, when I'm just going off ..so you have a good day.....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The only other thing I would add is given we don't know the "terms" of the exit, if they are extremely different to what people thought they were voting for then maybe there should be another vote?

..I'm not sure that would be an option because the vote from Europe would surely be 'no confidence'/get out and don't show your face again....what I mean is that it's not really our decision, as a country we made ours so the decision would be of the EU....

[Firewire]

It needs to be respected, that's the whole point.

Whether Scotland should be taken out of the EU though is a different story.

[Withano]

Brexit won on a **** ton of lies (and because some Brits were quite done with the professionals). A lot of Brits still wanted out, a lot of Brits wanted in so a compromise seems more logical. Not that our opinion should have mattered, the proffesionals should have decided alone really. Lets think about how many people want Trump president.. People are idiots and are self-imploding with power.

[Livia]

It was a democratic vote. There were lies told on BOTH sides. The outcome was as clear as it was in the Scottish independence referendum. Scotland voted to stay part of the UK. The UK then voted to leave the EU.

There is nothing else to say.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

It was a democratic vote. There were lies told on BOTH sides. The outcome was as clear as it was in the Scottish independence referendum. Scotland voted to stay part of the UK. The UK then voted to leave the EU.

There is nothing else to say.

Exactly

[Vicky.]

I think yes. BUT it would have been nice to have most people actually knowing what the hell they were voting for, given how important it is. It should never have been allowed the campaign of scaremongering and outright lies. I know people so pissed off with their vote (mainly outs, but some ins too) as they believed all the **** they were told. Which tbf most people will..not that many actually look at these things properly. I tried to look into it but couldn't really find any info I could trust so voted to stay as better the devil you know and all of that, also the more blatant lies (to me) appeared to be being made by the out campaign so I felt I could trust out even less. But it would have been nice to make a more informed choice.

[Black Dagger]

Yes bc democratic vote etc xo but obviously I'd love our Theresa to be like 'go **** yourselves' and we remain in the EU

[Tom4784]

I have no respect for it but I'm against the idea of another vote.

Like rubbing a dog's nose in it's own **** to toilet train it, people must face the consequences of their decision in order to learn to make better choices in future. People voted for brexit and now they must deal with the inevitable fallout it'll bring when we eventually leave. They've made their bed, now they must lie in it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There are two answers to this really. If it is a process that is feasible without utterly destroying the country then yes it should be respected and we should move forward with that.

If however it turns out to be the case that it is practically impossible to make it happen, or impossible without knowingly destroying the country, then theres no "honour" in simply forging forward "because democracy". To be clear, I don't mean it being up for debate and some people thinking it will be bad, but rather it becoming straight up fact upon examination that untangling from the EU is all but impossible without creating a failed state.

In that case I would 100% blame the government of the time for offering a vote on something when they didn't even know if it would be possible to realistically make it happen.

Indeed. It is ****ing ridiculous that the vote went ahead without ANYONE knowing wtf would happen if it was out. Noone expected it, but even so, these things should be thought out beforehand. Its clear noone knows what to do given Cameron crapped his pants and left and May is stuttering on about it now. I think shes a bit crazy personally for choosing to take leadership while this steaming pile of shite is going on. Personally, I can see the only way we can continue to trade the way we do, is to allow freedom of movement aswell and I do think the Eu will stick to that. And if we do that, a lot of peoples reasons for voting out are no longer 'valid' as the majority (not all) voted because of immigration.

[Scarlett.]

What I find funniest is the government is now faced with Brexit, but have no idea how to actually do it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have no respect for it but I'm against the idea of another vote.

Like rubbing a dog's nose in it's own **** to toilet train it, people must face the consequences of their decision in order to learn to make better choices in future. People voted for brexit and now they must deal with the inevitable fallout it'll bring when we eventually leave. They've made their bed, now they must lie in it.

I don't think that method is proven to work


Far from people lying in a bed of their own making which seems quite a bizarre stance to take given the amount of misinformation on both sides and that we still don't know what we actually voted for, I would like us to move forward now and just get on with it, whatever "it" is