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Cherie · 06-10-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But then all of those "lucky" boomers who do own their own homes and fell into jobs with decent salaries (which a lot did) are NOT happy... If anything, a content pig in a cage is even more advantageous than one who is broken and angry. Content day to day. Docile. A docile piggy is a quiet piggy... but chip off the veneer and most of those "happy boomers" are unfulfilled, low-level alcoholics, desperately trying to fill their lives with distraction just like the rest of us. Home improvement for a pretty cage. Third cruise in a year to get the **** out of the pretty cage for a little while and feel alive (drunk on the all inclusive). I think people inherently feel that it's a ****ing shambles but they can't piece it together and so they argue about this, and this, and this and that and desperately try to tell themselves that everything is fine because it's "good enough" and they have it "better than some" while they slide passively into their coffins. **** it, I keep saying "they". I should be saying "we". I'm one of them.

The world needs to stand up and absolutely ****ing rage but we won't. Not ever.

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the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Are you taking the piss?

No , but you clearly are

the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan.

Woe is me

Heartless

the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What rights do gay people not get nowadays in the UK?

They get every right and more protection than discrimination against disabled or against men

Niamh. · 06-10-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

They get every right and more protection than discrimination against disabled or against men

Gay men are men too, stop this out casting

UserSince2005 · 06-10-2016, 01:38 PM

Gays need protection. We cannot fight for ourselves.

the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Gay men are men too, stop this out casting

straight white men are most discriminated against and least protected in UK, disabled too lack the same protection

Jack_ · 06-10-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

straight white men are most discriminated against and least protected in UK

Beyond parody

LeatherTrumpet · 06-10-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Gays need protection. We cannot fight for ourselves.

Fight what exactly?

Jack_ · 06-10-2016, 01:42 PM

I might put that in my sig

Niamh. · 06-10-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

straight white men are most discriminated against and least protected in UK, disabled too lack the same protection

Sure Jan

the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Beyond parody

yes you are

MB. · 06-10-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What rights do gay people not get nowadays in the UK?

Gay people can't give blood unless they've abstained for a year, gay people still can't marry in Northern Ireland, there aren't any laws against hate speech based on sexual orientation in Scotland and Northern Ireland, conversion therapy isn't banned... how long have you got?

Jamie89 · 06-10-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

I agree the fact over 80% of fathers lose their children, their homes and half their income for the rest of their lives is a travesty and needs to be seriously addressed in this ale hating society...No wonder male suicides are at an all time high when they can lose everything and be accused of anything by anonymous liars at any moment of the day. Still lets not worry about the masses of struggling sometimes suicidal men who have so little justice and face such discrimination , lets just concentrate on the 2% who have every right under the sun already

Do you not consider that maybe some of those men you describe might be gay men? It's very strange that all your points seem to be separating 'men' and 'gay men'. What are you even suggesting anyway... that people shouldn't discuss any issues to do with sexuality until all the straight men have their problems fixed first? Or that we can talk about sexuality but it should be limited to strictly 2% of our overall conversation. No offense but it's kind of a ridiculous suggestion. People talk about the issues they see and the issues that affect them, so if there is a greater proportion of conversation directed towards gay issues then that should tell you something really.

MB. · 06-10-2016, 01:45 PM

(and that's just the UK, arguably one of the most forward-thinking countries in the world when it comes to this kind of thing)

UserSince2005 · 06-10-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Fight what exactly?

The inequality we are subjected to on a daily basis . We need laws and acts to protect us from the injustice.

the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Gay people can't give blood unless they've abstained for a year, gay people still can't marry in Northern Ireland, there aren't any laws against hate speech based on sexual orientation in Scotland and Northern Ireland, conversion therapy isn't banned... how long have you got?

blood needs to be checked with everyone, they can marry in wales scotland and england and civil partnership in n ireland which gives the same rights anyway...there are laws based on hate speech in scotland and n ireland....sadly there isnt the same protection for married men and disabled people who face endless discrimination and bias in society and in the courts....i doubt over 80% of divorced gay people lose everything...kids, house lifetime income etc

Niamh. · 06-10-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

Do you not consider that maybe some of those men you describe might be gay men? It's very strange that all your points seem to be separating 'men' and 'gay men'. What are you even suggesting anyway... that people shouldn't discuss any issues to do with sexuality until all the straight men have their problems fixed first? Or that we can talk about sexuality but it should be limited to strictly 2% of our overall conversation. No offense but it's kind of a ridiculous suggestion. People talk about the issues they see and the issues that affect them, so if there is a greater proportion of conversation directed towards gay issues then that should tell you something really.

MB. · 06-10-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

blood needs to be checked with everyone, they can marry in wales scotland and england and civil partnership in n ireland which gives the same rights anyway...there are laws based on hate speech in scotland and n ireland....sadly there isnt the same protection for married men and disabled people who face endless discrimination and bias in society and in the courts....i doubt over 80% of divorced gay people lose everything...kids, house lifetime income etc

Good grief it's like talking to a white supremacist brick wall

the truth · 06-10-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

Do you not consider that maybe some of those men you describe might be gay men? It's very strange that all your points seem to be separating 'men' and 'gay men'. What are you even suggesting anyway... that people shouldn't discuss any issues to do with sexuality until all the straight men have their problems fixed first? Or that we can talk about sexuality but it should be limited to strictly 2% of our overall conversation. No offense but it's kind of a ridiculous suggestion. People talk about the issues they see and the issues that affect them, so if there is a greater proportion of conversation directed towards gay issues then that should tell you something really.

the amount of time spent debating gay rights and womens rights is vastly disproportionate to the time and money spent on the rest of society . this creates a massive imbalance in our society against straight white men and disabled

Tom4784 · 06-10-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

I agree the fact over 80% of fathers lose their children, their homes and half their income for the rest of their lives is a travesty and needs to be seriously addressed in this ale hating society...No wonder male suicides are at an all time high when they can lose everything and be accused of anything by anonymous liars at any moment of the day. Still lets not worry about the masses of struggling sometimes suicidal men who have so little justice and face such discrimination , lets just concentrate on the 2% who have every right under the sun already

Let's not forget about the NHS and the 654 million unborn children they abort every year!

LeatherTrumpet · 06-10-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Gay people can't give blood unless they've abstained for a year, gay people still can't marry in Northern Ireland, there aren't any laws against hate speech based on sexual orientation in Scotland and Northern Ireland, conversion therapy isn't banned... how long have you got?

Surely the blood one relates to aids and NI will change like the rest of the UK as per

hate speech? not sure what that means (calling some one a ****?) and no idea what the last one is

Jack_ · 06-10-2016, 01:49 PM

I always say the same thing and it's pretty futile really cause it goes nowhere, but discrimination, injustice and inequality isn't a competition. It isn't 'well you've got this so now we must focus on this!!!!1'. Yes there are issues that directly and disproportionately effect men, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the remaining issues facing other minorities