[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Oh please, if it was a programme about Gay rights, LGBT or other serious issues you would be right.


CBB is a television reality show, the theme is the Year of the Woman, not Gay Rights, LGBT agendas and one Drag act.

1/ this year's CBB is different, it has a theme and it is a serious theme
2/ the reason why there is not much discussion about women rights is because Ms Widdecombe shuts down any such discussions and others let her (her dominant and rigid personality rules the roost in the house)
3/ all women who went into the house with Ann were spouting in their VTs about feminism, equality etc. Sadly those who would have challenged her like Rachel or Maggie were eliminated, others, like the young ones decided not to upset Ann.
4/only Shane J dared to try and question Ann with predictable results. And since his life's work is lgbtq rights, that's the topic he raised. (I can just imagine the rage of some if he dared to speak for women)
5/his support outside is loud and proud because we, lgbtq, support our people trying to fight our corner.
There, the mystery solved.

If a drag queen wins the year of the woman then it will be not just thanks to Shane J, but also thanks to Ann.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

1/ this year's CBB is different, it has a theme and it is a serious theme
2/ the reason why there is not much discussion about women rights is because Ms Widdecombe shuts down any such discussions and others let her (her dominant and rigid personality rules the roost in the house)
3/ all women who went into the house with Ann were spouting in their VTs about feminism, equality etc. Sadly those who would have challenged her like Rachel or Maggie were eliminated, others, like the young ones decided not to upset Ann.
4/only Shane J dared to try and question Ann with predictable results. And since his life's work is lgbtq rights, that's the topic he raised. (I can just imagine the rage of some if he dared to speak for women)
5/his support outside is loud and proud because we, lgbtq, support our people trying to fight our corner.
There, the mystery solved.

If a drag queen wins the year of the woman then it will be not just thanks to Shane J, but also thanks to Ann.

I disagree, Ann is happy to discuss anything, Shane has said so. Ann would never shut down any discussion of women's rights. She does state that men and women are not the same in degrees of strength but they are in other ways which she fully endorses.

Why would anyone challenge Ann on a subject she agreed with them. Their way might not be her way but the underlying aims were exactly the same.

Shane has rabble roused and tried to cause Ann the most distress which he has failed totally at because all his housemates turned on him and nominated him.

Why does the LGBT brigade want to win by default instead of winning by honest and decent means. Why did Shane go in with info to harm Ann rather than being a housemate and winning on merit. In fact his actions are giving Ann a backing she might not have had if he had chosen to do such. Why you need to view this in such a competitive manner rattling the Gay banner when every other housemate is there only to be themselves. It is hardly a level playing field.

If a drag queen wins, which he should with the backing he has and the tactics deployed, then it is sad for all the women who work every day, bring up a family and enjoy actually being a woman 24/7, not when she wants to win a reality show.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I disagree, Ann is happy to discuss anything, Shane has said so. Ann would never shut down any discussion of women's rights. She does state that men and women are not the same in degrees of strength but they are in other ways which she fully endorses.

Why would anyone challenge Ann on a subject she agreed with them. Their way might not be her way but the underlying aims were exactly the same.

Do you remember what Ann said about women equality? she thinks gender is unimportant and called it not equality but a tilted table. She is so close-minded she thinks just because she got ahead with men in parliament therefore all women should get on and stop moaning.
I can't believe you don't remember this and other things? Her view that women complaing about sex abuse in Hollywood knew what was involved? I can't be bothered to go through the whole list of things.

Shane has rabble roused and tried to cause Ann the most distress which he has failed totally at because all his housemates turned on him and nominated him.

Rabble-roused? More like stayed true to his convictions instead of appeasing granny Ann

Why does the LGBT brigade want to win by default instead of winning by honest and decent means. Why did Shane go in with info to harm Ann rather than being a housemate and winning on merit. In fact his actions are giving Ann a backing she might not have had if he had chosen to do such. Why you need to view this in such a competitive manner rattling the Gay banner when every other housemate is there only to be themselves. It is hardly a level playing field.

You don't need any "info" to harm Ann, she provides it herself as she hasn't changed her views since being in parliament and she is not shy to let you know them.
And any sensible person would try to find out who are the people they will ber living with for weeks on TV.
Shane is a campaigner, that's his whole life. That's who he is and he is being himself. You don't blame Wayne for prancing about all the time because he is a dancer? Or Amanda for hamming it up? Some people can't leave things that are their passion at the door.
Shane is not competitive, actually he is the opposite. The patience and moderation he has shown in there is amazing. Not many people would show such maturity. Many exiting housemates said so.
He is not rattling any banners, he is able to talk in respectful way to all of them. Geez, even Ann called him kind tonight.

If a drag queen wins, which he should with the backing he has and the tactics deployed, then it is sad for all the women who work every day, bring up a family and enjoy actually being a woman 24/7, not when she wants to win a reality show.

Shane was gracious to say tonight that he tought a woman should win, didn't he.
If CBB wanted to guarantee a female winner they should have been women only. When it started that's what I thought.
Since it is a popularity contest, even with one man in the mix there is always a chance that that man could win. That's not Shane's fault.