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20-02-2018, 07:56 PM | #126 | ||
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There's arguments that breastfeeding can "improve" the child in some ways. But that doesn't equate to no breastfeeding being harmful in anyway. Like driving a car to work is a benefit to getting to work, but managing to get to work without that benefit is not harmful. You still got to work. if that makes sense? Last edited by Marsh.; 20-02-2018 at 07:57 PM. |
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20-02-2018, 07:58 PM | #127 | ||
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Not to mention breastfeeding is natural. The mother produces milk purely to feed her child.
There is no "natural" phenomenon that means foreskins must be removed. If anything, nature is in support of foreskin and it's uses. |
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20-02-2018, 07:59 PM | #128 | |||
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'For infants, not being breastfed is associated with an increased incidence of infectious morbidity, as well as elevated risks of childhood obesity, type 1 and type 2 diabetes, leukemia, and sudden infant death syndrome' https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2812877/ |
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20-02-2018, 08:00 PM | #129 | ||
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Research is probably ongoing. They always have things like that to share, like those with longer legs are subject to achy feet. Last edited by Marsh.; 20-02-2018 at 08:01 PM. |
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20-02-2018, 08:04 PM | #130 | |||
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20-02-2018, 08:07 PM | #131 | ||
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"Healing properties"
But let's take that off your sensitive genitalia so there's no healing properties!!!!! |
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20-02-2018, 08:07 PM | #132 | |||
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The American Academy of Pediatrics on Monday announced its first major shift on circumcision in more than a decade, concluding that the health benefits of the procedure clearly outweigh any risks. "There is clear evidence that supports the health benefits of circumcision," said Susan Blank, who led the 14-member task force that formulated*the new policy*being published in the journal*Pediatrics. The statement, and accompanying*technical report, marks the first revision of the organization's position since 1999, when the academy backed away from circumcision https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...cised-than-not Now I'm not saying I support circumcision and I'm glad that I was not circumcised (although I don't think my life would be much different if I was) but to actually make something illegal is a serious step |
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20-02-2018, 08:08 PM | #133 | ||
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My phone is gonna die in like 90 seconds. I'll have a read when I'm home.
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20-02-2018, 08:09 PM | #134 | |||
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I don't buy into the argument that it's better for them to go through the pain as a baby since they won't remember it. They still feel the pain. We don't accept abuse of babies on the basis they won't remember it. And someone who is older may remember the pain, but it doesn't stay with them, they don't experience lifelong trauma, being able to remember it really doesn't make all that much difference to somebody - circumcision on the other hand is lifelong. And adults are better equipped to deal with pain and understand why it's happening to them, a baby isn't able to understand or deal with this kind of thing.
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20-02-2018, 08:16 PM | #135 | ||
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People massively overcomplicate this issue, and also make far too much of the "glorious foreskins!" arguments... anyone would think it was a slightly freudian issue . And don't get me started on these "intactivist" websites . For a start, they're populated 90% by The Angry Mums Of Facebook, spouting really odd things about their son's "perfect intact penises" . I swear they probably have foreskin statues decorating their houses. It's an odd, odd group of people.
As for the issue itself, it's a fairly simple one. - Removal of the foreskin does make some difference to sensitivity - And can OCCASIONALLY lead to lubrication issues if things are a bit "dry anyway" - ...but the differences between cut and uncut penises are hugely exaggerated. In most cases, there is very little difference in terms of sensation or function, and claims to the contrary are sensationalist. - Circumcision does significantly lower the risk of contracting an STI, and especially HIV.. - However that's not HUGELY relevant IMO because anyone having "risky" sex (unprotected sex with partners who they aren't fairly certain are clean) should obviously be using protection anyway. BUT - No, parents should NOT have the right to permanently modify their children's bodies in ANY way unless there is a valid medical reason to do so. - At age 18 it can then be totally down to the individual, like any other body modification (piercings, tattoos, etc). |
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20-02-2018, 09:30 PM | #136 | ||
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In the same way condoms reduce risk, celibacy severely cuts the risk. But nobody has either of those forced onto them either.
I don't think parents are cutting their baby's foreskin off to save them from a future risk of HIV. Of course, I agree over exaggerating how wonderful foreskin is, is just a bit much. But the NetMums type people I can't stomach at the best of times. Last edited by Marsh.; 20-02-2018 at 09:31 PM. |
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20-02-2018, 09:38 PM | #137 | |||
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20-02-2018, 11:05 PM | #138 | |||
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I was circumcised as a baby and it's literally not a big deal at all, don't get what the fuss is about If the parents want their baby to be circumcised, it isn't hurting anyone, just the same as it isn't hurting anyone if they don;t get circumcised
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21-02-2018, 07:21 AM | #139 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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21-02-2018, 07:42 AM | #140 | |||
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300,000 years of natural selection and evolution versus some bronze aged superstition
Its a home win for me |
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21-02-2018, 08:03 AM | #141 | |||
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21-02-2018, 08:09 AM | #142 | |||
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21-02-2018, 08:13 AM | #143 | |||
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The ritual is an ancient practice that has been carried out by Jewish parents for more than 3,000 years. Such is the importance of Brit milah that circumcision can take place on the Sabbath or a holy day even though the drawing of blood is not normally allowed on these days under Jewish law. According to the Torah (Genesis 17: 9-14), Abraham was commanded by God to circumcise himself, all male members of his household, his descendants and slaves in an everlasting covenant. This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. He that is eight days old among you shall be circumcised; every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house, or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring. Under Jewish law, failure to follow the commandment given to Abraham incurs the penalty of karet (being cut off from the rest of the community of God). The Torah (Genesis 16:14) also says: "Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreksin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant." http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...cision_1.shtml |
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21-02-2018, 08:15 AM | #144 | |||
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21-02-2018, 08:16 AM | #145 | |||
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Perhaps they could ditch this and wear a ring or wear their hair in a special way? |
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21-02-2018, 08:37 AM | #146 | ||
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... ... ... ... Then again, I have heard one or two stories about you LT so maybe it IS relevant. The term "Furries" came up . |
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21-02-2018, 09:15 AM | #147 | |||
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21-02-2018, 09:23 AM | #148 | ||
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It's like having chicken with the skin on or off, it's still chicken at the end off the day.
Never heard anyone say my life would be so different if I had a forskin. |
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21-02-2018, 09:24 AM | #149 | |||
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What if I start a religion and say that my God told me to remove girl babies earlobes.
It sounds crazy but it is NO different to any other made up religion, like Judaism My new religion is called LTism. |
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21-02-2018, 09:27 AM | #150 | ||
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The only people that will follow you around will be in white coats my dear boy.
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