[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People can criticise May, she has been dire, but the simple fact of the matter is that her agreement is the only one there is, the EU are not going to renegotiate it, they have stated that categorically numerous times now. With that fact there, then the UK parliament can vote for that deal, go for a no deal, or revoke article 50. This is not difficult, those are the options. Everything else is just mp's playing politics. That is why May is frustrated, and in that, I don't blame her at all.

I agree, okay maybe her red lines didn't help but the MPs did have many choices and many many votes. Also people saying she should have gone earlier for cross party talks and when she did that wasn't right either

kick it back to the public

[Livia]

May's agreement is the only one there is because she has steadfastly refused to allow people to comment on the bits they don't like and maybe change them. Mrs May has an "it's my way or the highway" approach that's split her party down the middle. What an awful time in politics. If there was an election tomorrow I would probably write "NONE OF THE ABOVE" on my ballot paper.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....Halloween 576895547629../..The Brexorcist....

https://www.independent.ie/entertain...-38005302.html

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

...Haha, excellent....the Brexorcism of Theresa May...(..extended version..)...

[arista]

The PM Live now in Parliament

[arista]

Even though the date is now 31st of October
there is only 74 Parliament sitting days
As PM Holidays go on as usual.
Two Fecking Weeks Holiday from tonight.


and

[arista]

[ Election Maps UK Retweeted
Britain Elects
‏ @britainelects
1h1 hour ago

English & Welsh Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 41% (-1)
CON: 37% (-8)
LDEM: 10% (+2)
UKIP: 7% (+5)
GRN: 2% (-)
CHUK: 1% (+1)]



UKIP on the up with some young folks



And this

[arista]

MP Bill Cash has a Secret Plan

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Labour would actually have to pick a path.They’ll alienate a large section of their voters whatever they do.It could actually be really bad for them.

If Labour picked a stance and ditched Corbyn for a more sensible / relatable (and darw I say it... A bit younger) center ground leader, IMO they would mop the floor in a GE.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If Labour picked a stance and ditched Corbyn for a more sensible / relatable (and darw I say it... A bit younger) center ground leader, IMO they would mop the floor in a GE.

They absolutely would. And as much as I'm not a Labour supporter, I hope they get rid of Corbyn soon. We need a strong government and a strong opposition and right now we've got neither.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If Labour picked a stance and ditched Corbyn for a more sensible / relatable (and darw I say it... A bit younger) center ground leader, IMO they would mop the floor in a GE.

i think labour will do a lot better without Corbyn, but the tories will have a new leader, and i would bet on it being someone relatively unknown.

At the moment though, they have the voting history of every MP, and whoever leads the party's going in to an election, that voting history will be examined in detail

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Livia

They absolutely would. And as much as I'm not a Labour supporter, I hope they get rid of Corbyn soon. We need a strong government and a strong opposition and right now we've got neither.

Don't let the Praetorian Guard of Momentum catch you saying that, or you might have a brick through your window...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Don't let the Praetorian Guard of Momentum catch you saying that, or you might have a brick through your window...

I'm not scared, bring it on you awful old Soviet nostalgists.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

They absolutely would. And as much as I'm not a Labour supporter, I hope they get rid of Corbyn soon. We need a strong government and a strong opposition and right now we've got neither.

Hi Livia.

I actually agree mostly.
I would like a new leader for Labour too.

I feel both major Party leaders are dividing rather than uniting their Parties.

If there's a Conservative leadership election any time soon.
You are usually quite on the ball on such issues.
Who would your money be on.

[reece(:]

Liz Kendall deserves labour leader!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Liz Kendall deserves labour leader!

I wouldn't mind that, Liz has been to the forefront of the brexit issue.
Getting some good points over against the PM.

My preferences would be, Dan Jarvis, still even Hilary Benn.


On the Conservative side.
If I was a supporter of them, the MP I most admire as I've said before, is Rory Stewart.
Of the cabinet, probably Matt Hancock.

This brexit issue may be irritating and frustrating but politics is never dull in my view.

[arista]

[Early signs of political support are encouraging.
Former Tory MP and lifelong Conservative member Michael Brown has become a registered supporter
of the Brexit Party. I was also amazed to hear the former
Tory minister Ann Widdecombe declare that, having campaigned for the Conservatives at every election since 1970,
she would vote for us in the European elections if we have the right candidates. ]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...e_AsTlcqSlPKSV



A New Party today "The Brexit Party"
meanwhile the 11 MP's of the Indie Group
are still waiting for their new name "Change UK"
to start up...................

[Sticks]

David Cameron should be dragged back to clean up his mess

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

David Cameron should be dragged back to clean up his mess

No he Resigned as MP.
That's him out of Politics



He should never have Dragged, the then,
USA President into our nation
to talk down to us.

[arista]

"No Deal" has stopped for now
until October when Civil Servants start again




Ref: All Out Politics SkyNewsHD 9:03AM

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

No he Resigned as MP.
That's him out of Politics



He should never have Dragged, the then,
USA President into our nation
to talk down to us.

What does Obama have to do with anything? We're being told that no one believed the lies that actually made up the whole leave campaign.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What does Obama have to do with anything? We're being told that no one believed the lies that actually made up the whole leave campaign.

He would say back of the Line
[B]but was given a UK Script of what to say
"back of the queue"[/B


https://news.sky.com/story/cameron-p...rning-11423669

[Sticks]

No, the leave campaign branded all the warnings of the Remain camp as lies of Project Fear, but now these warnings, which were dismissed are coming to pass.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

He would say back of the Line
[B]but was given a UK Script of what to say
"back of the queue"[/B


https://news.sky.com/story/cameron-p...rning-11423669

Right...so?

[Ammi]

...I haven’t seen any indication that Brexiting will be putting us at the front of any queues so Obama was most wise I reckon, Arista...