[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My wife is English, has lived and worked in Scotland for 8 years and has literally never experienced any "anti-English bile". Yet you've experienced "quite a lot" on visits. That's a bit odd, isn't it.

Perhaps it was something you said, Livia .

Been a few times to Scotland, love it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My wife is English, has lived and worked in Scotland for 8 years and has literally never experienced any "anti-English bile". Yet you've experienced "quite a lot" on visits. That's a bit odd, isn't it.
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Of course, if your experience wasn't exactly the same as mine then obviously I'm either making it up or I am just a horrible person. That's a myth that's being pushed lately... quite worrying.

The majority of people I met in Scotland were lovely... but not everyone. And if you're denying there is any anti-English feeling in Scotland they you are delirious.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Been a few times to Scotland, love it.

Of course you do!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nicely placed little insult there TS. A personal insult... you're getting good at those.

Of course, if your experience wasn't exactly the same as mine then obviously I'm either making it up or I am just a horrible person. That's a myth that's being pushed lately... quite worrying.

The majority of people I met in Scotland were lovely... but not everyone. And if you're denying there is any anti-English feeling in Scotland they you are delirious.

I must be making it up too ?

[Twosugars]

Anti-English feeling? A few centuries of lording it over it will do that to a country.
Reap what you sow, the proverb goes.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course you do!

Of course. A beautiful country, great people.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I must be making it up too ?

Oh we're all horrible and making it up. There... save someone else saying it.

[Twosugars]

Wish we had a leader like Nicola...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Anti-English feeling? A few centuries of lording it over it will do that to a country.
Reap what you sow, the proverb goes.

My family weren't here 200 years ago. Neither was ANYONE alive now.

And you know, the Scots want independence (I'm told), I want them to have it. And still I'm wrong.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Wish we had a leader like Nicola...

Move to Scotland and you will.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Been a few times to Scotland, love it.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Going later this year again. Still debating where though.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Going later this year again. Still debating where though.

Ooh me too, I’m gonna try and get to Glasgow for the Christmas market, beautiful place!

[Niamh.]

Deleted/edited some posts in here, can we try not getting personal with eachother, thanks

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ooh me too, I’m gonna try and get to Glasgow for the Christmas market, beautiful place!

Great idea, Liam
We wanted to revisit the west coast, but other places are tempting too.

[Niamh.]

I've only been to Glasgow and Aberdeen (but I can barely remember Aberdeen because I was only a kid) I'd like to go somewhere more rural and scenic though

[James]

I'm Scottish and Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP don't represent the views of many people here.

I think the pro-EU English who are jumping on the SNP bandwagon don't realise how much they are being manipulated. The SNP's pro-EU stance is part of the political game they play.

It is part of their strategy to sow division so that pro-Brexit English want rid of Scotland also - they are falling into the SNP trap also.

Scottish Independence would cause massive long-lasting division and bitterness between England and Scotland.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by James

I'm Scottish and Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP don't represent the views of many people here.

I think the pro-EU English who are jumping on the SNP bandwagon don't realise how much they are being manipulated. The SNP's pro-EU stance is part of the political game they play.

It is part of their strategy to sow division so that pro-Brexit English want rid of Scotland also - they are falling into the SNP trap also.

Scottish Independence would cause massive long-lasting division and bitterness between England and Scotland.

That is a refreshing point of view. And I think the continuous calling for a referendum when the last one was described as "once in a lifetime" is divisive. I don't really believe Scotland will leave the union, just that those people seeking another referendum are so loud.

I've experienced anti-English sentiment in Scotland, I would be lying to say I haven't... but if you compare it with the friendliness I've also experienced it pales into insignificance. Sometimes it's hard to hear the normal people over the frenzy.

[Cherie]

I got engaged in Edinburgh

[Kizzy]

The English are the least accepting of the UK, and I say that as an English person. Let's face it the north hate the south and visa versa and Yorkshire hate the mancs (except oasis).
I can well understand the worries of Scotland they don't trust this govt to do the right thing by them, and I dont blame them one bit.... I dont either.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by James

I'm Scottish and Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP don't represent the views of many people here.

I think the pro-EU English who are jumping on the SNP bandwagon don't realise how much they are being manipulated. The SNP's pro-EU stance is part of the political game they play.

It is part of their strategy to sow division so that pro-Brexit English want rid of Scotland also - they are falling into the SNP trap also.

Scottish Independence would cause massive long-lasting division and bitterness between England and Scotland.

I think you are spot on with that James, and Boris fell right in to the trap they laid for him in the commons last week. People don't seem to understand that telling Scottish people whats best for them in a know it all condescending tone isn't going to wash

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by James

I'm Scottish and Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP don't represent the views of many people here.

I think the pro-EU English who are jumping on the SNP bandwagon don't realise how much they are being manipulated. The SNP's pro-EU stance is part of the political game they play.

It is part of their strategy to sow division so that pro-Brexit English want rid of Scotland also - they are falling into the SNP trap also.

Scottish Independence would cause massive long-lasting division and bitterness between England and Scotland.

I dont feel manipulated.
UK should have gone fully federal ages ago. As it is Scotland deserves to be independent if it wants to.
UK is not one nation but four. Taking Scotland out of EU against its will is wrong. As usual England is trampling over the will of smaller nations bc of its numerical advantage.
The new circumstances warrant a new indyref, period.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The English are the least accepting of the UK, and I say that as an English person. Let's face it the north hate the south and visa versa and Yorkshire hate the mancs (except oasis).
I can well understand the worries of Scotland they don't trust this govt to do the right thing by them, and I dont blame them one bit.... I dont either.

Its all done to experience I suppose, I have always found English people very accepting of me as an Irish person There are rivalaries in every country, like Cork hates Dublin and vice versa, the culchies hate the townies, and on it goes

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My wife is English, has lived and worked in Scotland for 8 years and has literally never experienced any "anti-English bile". Yet you've experienced "quite a lot" on visits. That's a bit odd, isn't it.

Come on, it's everywhere you go..

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Come on, it's everywhere you go..

I would be very surprised if there weren't tbf