[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you explain how you think eu economy is working? why youth unemployment is o ver 40% in several nations, why greece was destroyed? how does monetary policy work when you have no control over your own money? explain how open borders across all of europe pluss the schengen allows entry into europe fromt he middle east, how is that good for wages and safety and counter terrorism too? how do you catch illegal immigrants and terrorists with open borders and 500 odd million moving unchecked between 30 odd nations?? explain how its right for eu commissioners to open doors to corporate takeovers then immediately join the same corporation? how do you intend to counter those vested interests? insider dealing? im all ears........

I asked first.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

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[_Tom_]

Love these brilliant "a question for George Osborne" beer mats they have in Wetherspoons

[Tom4784]

Pretty much every economic expert worth their salt is saying the same thing, that leaving the EU is a bad decision but I guess they're ALL cronies right?

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

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OMG.... I watch this show weekly and I was dying when I watched this

but I didn't think it was my place to post or chime in

[Alf]

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[Kizzy]

How stupid do UKIP think voters are?....Er, you better watch this... :/

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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Pretty much every economic expert worth their salt is saying the same thing, that leaving the EU is a bad decision but I guess they're ALL cronies right?

Good point.

I now just shake my head too, as to other than all the economists and monetary organisations we should ignore.

When Gove and Johnson say voters should listen to only as to big buslness, the heads of JCB,Next and Dyson but should ignore completely all the other heads of big business that do not agree with them.
Unbelievable.

How voters cannot see through that is beyond me.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How stupid do UKIP think voters are?....Er, you better watch this... :/

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This rather infantile cartoon is yet still more TRUTHFUL than ANYTHING which has issued forth from the crooked mouths of David Cameron and George Osborne and company regarding their case to 'Remain'.

IT MERELY CONVEYS WHAT JEREMY CORBYN IS BURSTING TO SAY BUT CANNOT, WHICH IS:

IGNORE THE CRETINOUS SCARE MONGERING BY THE 'REMAIN' CAMP, "THE UK IS BETTER OFF OUT OF THE CORRUPT, ANTI-DEMOCRATIC, ANTI-WORKING CLASS, FEDERALIST, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL DISASTER WHICH IS THE EU".

[Kizzy]

Yes take notice of a cartoon that conveys no logic or reasoning, ignore the economists as well as almost 100 universities... do you think Farage thinks we're all dumb clucks?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes take notice of a cartoon that conveys no logic or reasoning, ignore the economists as well as almost 100 universities... do you think Farage thinks we're all dumb clucks?

Are not these 'Economists' some of those 'ECONOMIC EXPERTS' whose TRACK RECORDS on ECONOMIC ADVICE are one long chain of UNMITIGATED, SPECTACULARLY ERRONEOUS DISASTERS?

1. In 1999, 65% of Economic Experts PASSIONATELY tried to convince the UK that WE SHOULD JOIN THE EURO.

2. 73 per cent of those 'ECONOMIC EXPERTS' actually SPECIALIALISED in the ECONOMICS OF THE EU.

AS even you must admit - The UK would have been TOTALLY FECKED if we had listened to these idiots.

From the 1920's 'Great Bubble' and crash and depression, through the Thatcherite 'macroeconomic' policies of the 1980's, which - love her or hate her - SAVED the UK, the 'ECONOMISTS' have SPECTACULARLY kept getting it wrong.

YET - crook CAMERON and his 'REMAIN' cronies keep 'wheeling out' these FAILED ECONOMIC EXPERTS and INSTITUTIONS to support his crooked cause.

This is NO SURPRISE - given that the same bunch of deceivers have the AUDACITY to 'wheel out' FAILED and PROVEN CORRUPT ex-POLITICIANS for the same purpose; TONY 'WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION' BLAIR and JOHN 'MAASTRICHT TREATY' MAJOR among others.

As for: "100 Universities"

Vested Interests.

Oh and by the way:

The dumbclucks who keep bleating that "The EU donates money' to this or that" need to educate themselves - in my opinion of course - because IT IS OUR OWN FECKING MONEY WHICH THEY ARE RETURNING TO US.

Or PART OF OUR OWN MONEY - you know, the tiny little morsels of what's left after THE EU has taken its cut and filtered the rest to some of the more avaricious, often anti-British other 'member states'.

[_Tom_]

Big Brother legend Helen Wood having her say on the EU Ref

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[Kizzy]

Yes ignore the experts as the brexit line is you've had enough of those eh? Experts in economics and education are all 'idiots'.
I don't share in the rose tinted reflections of the 80s, the rise of outsourcing, privatisation and venture capitalism has all but destroyed this country. Thatcher truly was the enemy within, a warmonger hellbent on dismantling infrastructure; she succeeded.

Yet that is only my opinion, the fact is we have knowledgeable people and academics stating the case for remain... and there's a cartoon about chickens :/

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes ignore the experts as the brexit line is you've had enough of those eh? Experts in economics and education are all 'idiots'.
I don't share in the rose tinted reflections of the 80s, the rise of outsourcing, privatisation and venture capitalism has all but destroyed this country. Thatcher truly was the enemy within, a warmonger hellbent on dismantling infrastructure; she succeeded.

Yet that is only my opinion, the fact is we have knowledgeable people and academics stating the case for remain... and there's a cartoon about chickens :/

"Yes ignore the experts as the brexit line is you've had enough of those eh? Experts in economics and education are all 'idiots'"

'Experts' with track records such as those, CANNOT SERIOUSLY BE LISTENED TO - THAT IS MY POINT.

the rise of outsourcing, privatisation and venture capitalism has all but destroyed this country. - If you TRULY BELIEVE this statement, then you should be adamantly in the 'LEAVE' camp, because the EU is WHOLLY about those very things.

[Black Dagger]

You DONT HAVE TO SHOUT. /Natasha Hamilton

[Kizzy]

What should be listened to, the lie regarding the Ł350 million we send to the EU which bojo himself says is inaccurate?

lol

[Tom4784]

The whole 'ignore the experts' line is embarrassing. Yes, every expert across the world is saying the same thing, that us leaving the EU could destabilise us, the EU and have an adverse effect on the global market but we should ignore all that because we need to cut off our noses spite our faces just 'cus.

We're going to alienate everyone by leaving, we aren't going to get good deals with anyone if we piss them off by throwing them under the bus.

None of the Brexit arguments make a lick of sense. It's just ignorance presented as fact.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What should be listened to, the lie regarding the Ł350 million we send to the EU which bojo himself says is inaccurate?

lol

The latest leave EU referendum broadcast the other night was still the one going on about saving fully that Ł350million every week and that Ł350million going fully to the NHS too, nowhere else.

A total lie,how that figure as it is, has been allowed to be continued to be presented as it has, totally is and in my view should be, seen as criminally misleading the voters.

I am also fed up of the leave side saying if you are asked what your earnings are and you say get a figure like 50k a year,that is your earnings.
Indeed but anyone earning 50k a year would not in any way whatsoever get 50k in their hand to spend every year, so that point is irrelevant.

[Kizzy]

Of course it's rubbish, ignore the 'experts' believe our made up pseudo economics... lol

[Cherie]

I only had Leave leaflets through the door and by post in the last few days they seem to be working harder

[Northern Monkey]

Oh yeah those 'experts'.
The experts who could'nt even predict last years economy right.The experts who could'nt even predict the 2008 crash,The same experts who wanted to drag us into the € because we'd be much better off and who have either not predicted or predicted wrong every major economic event of the last century.Yeah lets listen to those experts.They know their ****.

[Northern Monkey]

The BBC are a joke.Preaching on the Daily Politics how impartiality is of utmost importance and how if a remainiac has a say then they will have a brexitier on to have their say whilst they're slipping 'news items' in on the BBC news about how bad they think it'll be if we leave.They think we're idiots.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Big Brother legend Helen Wood having her say on the EU Ref

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To be fair i think Helen Wood would almost make me vote remain.Not the best face of the leave side.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The BBC are a joke.Preaching on the Daily Politics how impartiality is of utmost importance and how if a remainiac has a say then they will have a brexitier on to have their say whilst they're slipping 'news items' in on the BBC news about how bad they think it'll be if we leave.They think we're idiots.

Come on who dreamed that up? I like that it's actually pretty funny!
I might vote out just due to the comedy value of that word.

[Alf]

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