[Northern Monkey]

Seemed like the Tories were coming back together again while Labour not all singing from the same hymn sheet.

[bitontheslide]

no deal it is then

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What an absolute farce.

I could near support clearing the whole lot of present MPs out.
Hopefully replacing them with better ones.

Never ever I think, has the UK been so badly served and led so tragically as by this PM, her Government and also the opposition too.

She's now off to try to do, what she was told by the vote 2 weeks to do.
However she's had to be forced.

Her procrastination is dangerous.
A total and utter farce.

Perhaps not....she has them by the balls now...teasing them with that 39 billion on a stick..

Now even Corbyn's backtracked and will now meet her even though no deal is still on the table.


Well done tlthe PM....I knew she wouldn't let us down

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Perhaps not....she has them by the balls now...teasing them with that 39 billion on a stick..

Now even Corbyn's backtracked and will now meet her even though no deal is still on the table.


Well done tlthe PM....I knew she wouldn't let us down

it's a very high risk strategy given that she will cripple the country on a no deal outcome ... i don't consider it clever. The EU arent likely to cave on their stance. (Ireland can make sure they don't) The bigger picture has always been that the EU can't give a good deal to the UK because that would encourage other countries to leave too.

The probability of a no deal must be > 90% now .... i don't see that as good negotiation.

[joeysteele]

Total mess.
Unbelievable, Theresa May is accused of being vague, which she is re the backstop timing.
Then Con MPs and some pathetic Labour ones, support an amendment, saying replace the backstop with an alternative.
While completely evading identifying any alternative.
Bonkers.

Graham Brady's amendment was only passed because he's chairman of the powerful 1922 committee of the Con party.

The vote last night just took the whole of the UK into more uncertainty.
Yet that's called Con unity.

Mrs May 2 weeks ago, claimed she wanted to hear all views and held token, lip service meeting with others of other Parties.

Wasting their time as all she's supported is pandering to the far right of her party in the end.

If anyone is impressed with both the behaviour and voting of MPs last night, I say they are possibly easy pleased.

Of course round, whatever number is now, comes again in 2 weeks time, where possibly similar or stronger amendments, such as was voted down last night are likely to surface.

As for the DUP, that Party is a disgrace.
The influence it now has with 10 MPs across the whole of the UK is far from anything democratic.

The whole thing as it's being played out by this Government, however the opposition is not really trying to lead either, is sickening now to watch and listen to.

Last night was purely and simply, an exercise to hold the Con party together at this moment in time.
Nothing really about consulting all of Parliament or acting for the good of the whole UK.

Those who voted leave, remain, or who don't vote or not old enough to vote yet.
Across the board failed, all of them, by this PM and this farcical government.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Sticks

What happened to the motion that the Moon is made of Swiss Cheese not Green Cheese. It had just as much validity as all those other votes.


So off to the glorious Hard, No Deal Brexit a hard border across Northern Ireland and an end to the Good Friday Agreement.

your ongoing xenophobic conquest against the irish is really tiresome

[arista]

"however the opposition is not really trying to lead either, "

Yes Joey
Corbyn should do TV Live interviews
but has stopped.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Sticks

What happened to the motion that the Moon is made of Swiss Cheese not Green Cheese. It had just as much validity as all those other votes.


So off to the glorious Hard, No Deal Brexit a hard border across Northern Ireland and an end to the Good Friday Agreement.

You’re obsessed with Ireland.Nobody is going to put a hard border in Ireland even under no deal.Literally not one person(other than you) wants it.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's a very high risk strategy given that she will cripple the country on a no deal outcome ... i don't consider it clever. The EU arent likely to cave on their stance. (Ireland can make sure they don't) The bigger picture has always been that the EU can't give a good deal to the UK because that would encourage other countries to leave too.

The probability of a no deal must be > 90% now .... i don't see that as good negotiation.

There is absolutely no proof that the uk will be crippled by a no deal brexit...not one tiny atom.

However, the struggling economies of France Germany etc just may be, which is why they will bend over and take it right up the bum in the end so they don't miss out on the 39 billion.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You’re obsessed with Ireland.Nobody is going to put a hard border in Ireland even under no deal.Literally not one person(other than you) wants it.

Actually it was a EU big wig who has said that a No Deal Brexit will result in a Hard Border, I just report what they say. No malice against the Irish should be inferred Nicky91, this is EU law.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Actually it was a EU big wig who has said that a No Deal Brexit will result in a Hard Border, I just report what they say. No malice against the Irish should be inferred Nicky91, this is EU law.

But that was Early on
they were saying just that.

Now its changing.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by parmnion

There is absolutely no proof that the uk will be crippled by a no deal brexit...not one tiny atom.

However, the struggling economies of France Germany etc just may be, which is why they will bend over and take it right up the bum in the end so they don't miss out on the 39 billion.

you have got to be kidding, if you are not I will quote this later

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you have got to be kidding, if you are not I will quote this later

You could quote some proof at the same time.

[Nicky91]

the proof about uk being crippled after no deal brexit is quite Obvious, already many companies have been leaving the UK for other european countries including my country


but then again i'd call that karma for those in parliament/politics who want this mess of a no deal brexit which was definitely not necessary and just an attempt of wanting to feel strong on their own, brexit should've more been like independence but still thinking what's best for normal middle class british people cause they are gonna suffer from the consequences of a ''hard no deal brexit'' more difficult to find jobs, also harder to find medicine since EMA and FDA have left the UK for us Netherlands

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

There is absolutely no proof that the uk will be crippled by a no deal brexit...not one tiny atom.

However, the struggling economies of France Germany etc just may be, which is why they will bend over and take it right up the bum in the end so they don't miss out on the 39 billion.

Yes could be,
that would make sense.

Please Excuse me for Enlarging your Billions

[Sticks]

I feel a song coming on

We're leaving without a deal, we're leaving without a deal, ee I adio we're leaving without a deal

[arista]

[arista]

Labour Leader Corbyn
is in Number 10
Finally talking to the PM.


In Brussels
Junker and Barnier (both Live on all TV news)
both agree to talks
but they accept
a No Deal is still possible

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the proof about uk being crippled after no deal brexit is quite Obvious, already many companies have been leaving the UK for other european countries including my country


but then again i'd call that karma for those in parliament/politics who want this mess of a no deal brexit which was definitely not necessary and just an attempt of wanting to feel strong on their own, brexit should've more been like independence but still thinking what's best for normal middle class british people cause they are gonna suffer from the consequences of a ''hard no deal brexit'' more difficult to find jobs, also harder to find medicine since EMA and FDA have left the UK for us Netherlands

That's just not true about companies leaving, plenty have threatened to but why would you relocate to Germany who have admitted to losing control of immigration...or France who is about as stable as gc on ice.

[arista]

A Green MEP From Belgium
accepts No Deal
saying its better to have a one off hit
than many hits


Speaking SkyNewsHD Live
a few minutes back.

[parmnion]

Many will however move their eu headquarters if they were in the uk...of course...but that's not the whole company upping sticks and pissing off. All it is is a necessary move to have your companies eu headquarters actually in the EU. ..which makes sense.

[arista]

Yes some are making plans to move.
Even though we do not yet have a outcome.
No trust in all the MP's
I can fully understand that.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Many will however move their eu headquarters if they were in the uk...of course...but that's not the whole company upping sticks and pissing off. All it is is a necessary move to have your companies eu headquarters actually in the EU. ..which makes sense.

Why do they want to up me? What did I do to them?