[Marc]

Will she ever win ANYTHING?!

She's absolutely useless.. and she prides herself on being competitive... loser, she's a failure

[BBUK4LYFE]

Ask Jordan and Jeff.

[melanie]

^ Who have both done so much more than her

[survivorfan]

The great Dr Will never won anything except the $500k at the end. BB is about strategy and playing an intelligent social game not just about winning tasks, getting freebies from Americas vote and making out!

[BBUK4LYFE]

[rquote=2510277&tid=144856&author=survivorfan]The great Dr Will never won anything except the $500k at the end. BB is about strategy and playing an intelligent social game not just about winning tasks, getting freebies from Americas vote and making out![/rquote]
God I love you.

You always say exactly what I'm thinking.

[LemonJam]

Technically, she won the 1st HoH with Russell but Jessie got it.

But I do agree that she sucks at winning.

[survivorfan]

She has thrown alot of challenges to take the target off her back and rather formed really strong allainces. In BB the strongest who win tasks tend to get voted off first and also when you win HOH you have to put people up so they get evicted and this puts blood on your hands.

Dr Will perfected the game in BB2 where he didnt win a single HOH and future winners have copied this strategy to an extent. Eg Dan threw alot of challenges at the start of his season and only steped it up towards the end. I expect Natalie to do thesame.

She imo has layed the best strategic game this year given the silly coup twist ruined her power allaince of Jessie and Chima and has been the underdog now along time and her greatest move was the lie to Jeff which led to chain of events of a week ago Natalie Kevin were up for eviction and now complete turn around Jordan and Jeff are in the hot seat LOL

[geoking66]

[rquote=2510277&tid=144856&author=survivorfan]The great Dr Will never won anything except the $500k at the end. BB is about strategy and playing an intelligent social game not just about winning tasks, getting freebies from Americas vote and making out![/rquote]

Yes, but Natalie's just worthless; she doesn't even understand basic strategy. At least Will did.

[survivorfan]

[rquote=2525670&tid=144856&author=geoking66][rquote=2510277&tid=144856&author=survivorfan]The great Dr Will never won anything except the $500k at the end. BB is about strategy and playing an intelligent social game not just about winning tasks, getting freebies from Americas vote and making out![/rquote]

Yes, but Natalie's just worthless; she doesn't even understand basic strategy. At least Will did.[/rquote]

Natalie won the first HOH which was given to Jessie. She formed a strong bond and allinace with Jesse and also Chima's girl power and she was practical guaranteed top 2 is she saw it out but the coup ower ruined her alliance and she had to fight back and her greatest game play was the lie which got Jeff to back door Russell.

Think about it...Natalie and Kevin were on the block a week ago and today its reversed with Kevin and Natalie still in the house and J/J on the block instead. Will did exactly that lied alot to get off the chopping block.

Natalie threw the last HOH exactly as Will has done in the past so sorry to say she does know about basic strategyjust maybe you cant see that this is a complex game and not about just making one big move to backdoor someone which comes and bits you back a week later.

She is playing an excellent long game and Kevin would be gone last week and she this week if not for her game play.

Also she has stayed true to her original allaince unlike Jeff who is ready to campaign against Jordan and also made a deal to not go up and wanted Jordan to go up instead. He also acted as a bad loser to Michelle wining the POV and is upset with Kevin for backdoring him when thats what he did to Russell the week before and told Russell he should show some class yet Jeff is now class less bad loser to Michelle.

When Will won BB2 he was hated by the public just like Natalie and Hardy was the fan fav just like Jeff.

Why natalie is disliked i dont know except she was close to Jessie who is also disliked. She has played a great game imo. BBUS is not a popularity contest like BBUK so people eed to get over personal feelings and look at game play, not indivdidual wining tasks and indivdual acts to evict someone but the whole game and bigger picture.

[BBUK4LYFE]

[rquote=2525949&tid=144856&author=survivorfan][rquote=2525670&tid=144856&author=geoking66][rquote=2510277&tid=144856&author=survivorfan]The great Dr Will never won anything except the $500k at the end. BB is about strategy and playing an intelligent social game not just about winning tasks, getting freebies from Americas vote and making out![/rquote]

Yes, but Natalie's just worthless; she doesn't even understand basic strategy. At least Will did.[/rquote]

Natalie won the first HOH which was given to Jessie. She formed a strong bond and allinace with Jesse and also Chima's girl power and she was practical guaranteed top 2 is she saw it out but the coup ower ruined her alliance and she had to fight back and her greatest game play was the lie which got Jeff to back door Russell.

Think about it...Natalie and Kevin were on the block a week ago and today its reversed with Kevin and Natalie still in the house and J/J on the block instead. Will did exactly that lied alot to get off the chopping block.

Natalie threw the last HOH exactly as Will has done in the past so sorry to say she does know about basic strategyjust maybe you cant see that this is a complex game and not about just making one big move to backdoor someone which comes and bits you back a week later.

She is playing an excellent long game and Kevin would be gone last week and she this week if not for her game play.

Also she has stayed true to her original allaince unlike Jeff who is ready to campaign against Jordan and also made a deal to not go up and wanted Jordan to go up instead. He also acted as a bad loser to Michelle wining the POV and is upset with Kevin for backdoring him when thats what he did to Russell the week before and told Russell he should show some class yet Jeff is now class less bad loser to Michelle.

When Will won BB2 he was hated by the public just like Natalie and Hardy was the fan fav just like Jeff.

Why natalie is disliked i dont know except she was close to Jessie who is also disliked. She has played a great game imo. BBUS is not a popularity contest like BBUK so people eed to get over personal feelings and look at game play, not indivdidual wining tasks and indivdual acts to evict someone but the whole game and bigger picture.[/rquote]
Best post I've ever read on this site.

[geoking66]

The problem with that logic is that Natalie has specifically said, in the Diary Room may I add, that she's actually trying to win. That means she's failing…miserably. You also have to remember that durin BB2 there were only HoH competitions, no vetos, so Will's strategy was much easier to accomplish. And if Natalie were smart enough, she'd realise that after the coup d'état, she should have refrained from mourning Jesse and aligned onto JJMR, but she didn't.

Also, having seen BB2 when it aired, Will was popular, so I don't know where you got this information that he wasn't.

[survivorfan]

[rquote=2527147&tid=144856&author=geoking66]The problem with that logic is that Natalie has specifically said, in the Diary Room may I add, that she's actually trying to win. That means she's failing…miserably. You also have to remember that durin BB2 there were only HoH competitions, no vetos, so Will's strategy was much easier to accomplish. And if Natalie were smart enough, she'd realise that after the coup d'état, she should have refrained from mourning Jesse and aligned onto JJMR, but she didn't.

Also, having seen BB2 when it aired, Will was popular, so I don't know where you got this information that he wasn't. [/rquote]

The point of my logic IS that Natalie is trying to win so dont get your point! She IS guaranteed Final Four. Has friends in the jury house and as an ally still in the game. The people who have failed miserablyare J&J who are now facing each for eviction this week. Also natalie would be a better speaker at the final 2 jury questioning against Michelle but prob 50/50 with Kevin.

Jordan is just baggage right now conciding defeat and $500k to Jeff who is ready to see her go home and wont even stand up and fight for her. Pitiful excuse for a man and sore loser to michelle in the veto. Americas choice is showing his true colours and i see all the Jeff fans have gone quiet.

After the coup Natalie mourning Jessie showed she really cared and was affected by the shock removal of her ally unlike Jeff who is ready to throw his ally Jordan under the bus to stay in the game. She had to stay true to the remaining allies she had namely Chima but again shock events Chima gets booted and yet she has survived and in a strong place today.

Why would she switch sides and become bottom in pecking order of a different alliance of dumbos mainly J&J when she is now in a strong position to win! Its going to come down to who wins HOH and the Veto next.

[geoking66]

[rquote=2527947&tid=144856&author=survivorfan][rquote=2527147&tid=144856&author=geoking66]The problem with that logic is that Natalie has specifically said, in the Diary Room may I add, that she's actually trying to win. That means she's failing…miserably. You also have to remember that durin BB2 there were only HoH competitions, no vetos, so Will's strategy was much easier to accomplish. And if Natalie were smart enough, she'd realise that after the coup d'état, she should have refrained from mourning Jesse and aligned onto JJMR, but she didn't.

Also, having seen BB2 when it aired, Will was popular, so I don't know where you got this information that he wasn't. [/rquote]

The point of my logic IS that Natalie is trying to win so dont get your point! She IS guaranteed Final Four. Has friends in the jury house and as an ally still in the game. The people who have failed miserablyare J&J who are now facing each for eviction this week. Also natalie would be a better speaker at the final 2 jury questioning against Michelle but prob 50/50 with Kevin.

Jordan is just baggage right now conciding defeat and $500k to Jeff who is ready to see her go home and wont even stand up and fight for her. Pitiful excuse for a man and sore loser to michelle in the veto. Americas choice is showing his true colours and i see all the Jeff fans have gone quiet.

After the coup Natalie mourning Jessie showed she really cared and was affected by the shock removal of her ally unlike Jeff who is ready to throw his ally Jordan under the bus to stay in the game. She had to stay true to the remaining allies she had namely Chima but again shock events Chima gets booted and yet she has survived and in a strong place today.

Why would she switch sides and become bottom in pecking order of a different alliance of dumbos mainly J&J when she is now in a strong position to win! Its going to come down to who wins HOH and the Veto next.[/rquote]

Let's think of it this way in terms of Natalie not winning. Jeff or Michele is guaranteed to win (memory-based) HoH because Natalie is completely worthless in terms of winning. Kevin and Natalie will be the nominees because:

1) If Jeff wins, he's pissed over the broken promise and Kevin + sidekick will be nominated
2) If Michele wins, she thinks Jeff is the only partially trustworthy person in the house and wanted Natalie out a long time ago and knows that Kevin's a threat

Because Natalie won't win the veto, Kevin has a 20% shot at saving himself. If Kevin does manage to save himself, Natalie's still gone because he knows that she offers him nothing and can blame the vote on someone else as an explanation. However, if those nominations stand, Kevin's more likely to go. However, Michelle with Jeff/Natalie I can't predict.

[survivorfan]

Err...you are assuming Jeff is still in the game

[geoking66]

Updated strategy:

Whoever wins the PoV determines who leaves. If Michele or Jordan win, then Kevin is out. If Kevin or Natalie win, then Michele is out. If we take scenario one, that leaves us with Michele, Jordan, and Natalie, with Natalie most likely going based on pure numbers, but it's more complicated because of how the final one works, with Michele definitely taking the mental part. If Michele or Jordan win, Natalie is assured eviction because she has too many friends on the jury. Now here's the trick:

Michele's definite jury votes: Russel
Jordan's definite jury votes: Jeff

This leaves Jessie, Lydia, Kevin, and Natalie as wildcards. Kevin would probably vote for Michele, as would Natalie, but it's uncertain at this point. Not sure where Jessie and Lydia would stand, but considering their relationship with Jeff, it's very possible that they would vote for Michele. However, the lack of a seventh juror poses a problem. There's definitely a solution, but no one knows at this point.