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Old 01-06-2010, 04:04 AM #51
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quoting something I found - these are not my words:


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There was an interview today with ISrael radio and Greta berlin, spokesperson for the flotilla:

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ISRAEL RADIO: Let me ask you a question. Why didn’t you accept Israel’s offer to bring the goods through the Port of Ashkelon to Gaza. You could have accepted the idea and by that you could have broken the Israeli blockade as well.

GRETA: Because you don’t tell the truth. You would never have delivered any of those supplies to Gaza because all of the supplies that we are bringing in are on the list of 2000 items that the people of Gaza cannot have to rebuild they society. So you never would have, you never would have permitted the supplies in. I do not believe the Israelis because every time one of your officials talks about bringing the supplies to Ashdod, they say food, clothing, and medicine. We don’t have any of that on board. We have cement, paper, water filtration systems, the things that will help the people of Gaza rebuild, and you do not allow those things in.
Rebuild, my foot. Now... WHY are cement, paper, water, filtration systems (ahem), not allowed in? Are those filtration systems going to be used to purify drinking water? Will they be used for central a/c in clinics? Why not just bring in water bottles?
The simple answer is: they are trying to build tunnels and bunkers. Which aren't exactly used for humanitarian purposes.
When was the last time that UN humanitarian aid packages didn't include bread, water, canned meat, medicine etc?
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Can I bet £5k that by the time the ship hits port, all the relief aid will be gone and it will be full of AK-47s. Mosad (Israeli Intelligence) will fix it 4 U - they're more oppressive than the Nazis
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And I'm annoyed Brookie that your president will say 0 about the murders on a relief boat - I thought pres promised was gonna tell true...............not waiting for MOSAD to plant arms on the boat so can support the evil Nazi Israelies who seem to have gone in "guns loaded, minds closed"

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Why on Earth was a holocaust survivor on the boat if it was not just bringing -in stuff to help take the misery out of Gaza?
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And again Israel coukld have legitimately sunk every last boat with all hands under it's right to self defence granted by Article 51 of the UN charter.

These terrorist sympathisers got off lightly
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And again Israel coukld have legitimately sunk every last boat with all hands under it's right to self defence granted by Article 51 of the UN charter.

These terrorist sympathisers got off lightly
Yup - those b'stards could have got off lightly for importing a holocaust survivor n some parts for wells - shoot them all, no questions asked - SUPER on Titanic 3 by sticks. Lets bomb Gaza as well just for a laugh eh Herr Sticks - zeig heil

The pathos is laughable Herr Sticks

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This is just the Israeli Defense Force's spin on the story
Not true at all.

And we all know these "peace convoys"....


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Not true at all.

And we all know these "peace convoys"....

Yup Mojo - now we can scuba into Medetterean and find parts of well tapping stuff and **** to help people - boat now is full of AK-47s courtesy of Isreeli attack planted MOSAD RULES
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Yup Mojo - now we can scuba into Medetterean and find parts of well tapping stuff and **** to help people - boat now is full of AK-47s courtesy of Isreeli attack planted MOSAD RULES
I was not saying that there were guns on that ship, but you know what they were heading to.
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I was not saying that there were guns on that ship, but you know what they were heading to.
I am saying the commandos went to murder on a civilian ship in international water - defend that idea pal?
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I am saying the commandos went to murder on a civilian ship in international water - defend that idea pal?
You really believe that propaganda?? Ok, fine....
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I am saying the commandos went to murder on a civilian ship in international water
Not really.
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You really believe that propaganda?? Ok, fine....
What propoganda? The ship was full of AK-47s destined for war or bricks to/help for the Palestinians?????? The boat even had a holocaust surviver on board supporting the Aid relief

What do you believe kiddo????? The Isreealis took out a warship full of guns and missiles????
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What propoganda? The ship was full of AK-47s destined for war or bricks to/help for the Palestinians?????? The boat even had a holocaust surviver on board supporting the Aid relief

What do you believe kiddo????? The Isreealis took out a warship full of guns and missiles????
Like this?

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Some kids beggar belief Mojo - I give up and the Isreeali commandos were correct for bringing shot "in the head" iInstead of water to the Palistinians
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Some kids beggar belief Mojo
So are you saying that palestinians don't blow up Israel civilians?
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Sorry pal - I'm a bit huffed bout the Isreali mirders but will shut-up
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What would David say about the illegal killings?
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So are you saying that palestinians don't blow up Israel civilians?
Are you saying that is the reason the IDF killed civilians on internatioal waters yesterday ?And are you also saying that the IDF dont blow up palestinians civilians?
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Are you saying that is the reason the IDF killed civilians on internatioal waters yesterday ?And are you also saying that the IDF dont blow up palestinians civilians?
Nope - I believe MOSAD are the worst terrorists in the globe - worst even than the US who conduct black operations outwith control.

Killing peeople on an aid boat just dont work for me.

Are you a bit Nazi too?
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Nope - I believe MOSAD are the worst terrorists in the globe - worst even than the US who conduct black operations outwith control.

Killing peeople on an aid boat just dont work for me.

Are you a bit Nazi too?
My post was too mojo claymores.
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Hello??? Israeli soldiers first radioed the ships and told them to stop entering Gaza as tehre is a blockade there, as Hamas, a terrorist organization, has taken over it. the flotilla ignored them and continued on to Gaza. Israeli soldiers then entered the ship and were attacked by knives, metal bars and live fire. Ony then did the soldiers begin shooting TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. why, why, why is middle east press coverage ALWAYS biased and one-sided???
Even though we may not know every detail about this incident I would say that overall the previous incidents suggest you are correct.
Meaning - it was self-defense.

Let me make this clear - I am NOT in love with Israel or running around arguing for them as my 'team'.
I may not even like Israel,
and,
I want to sympathize with any sincere hard-working Palestinian who is genuinely trying to live.

Problem.
Over and over again these incidents are NOT 'each is guilty' incidents but they are clearly Palestinian terrorists, murderers who absolutely can and will and often have INITIATED killings of innocent civilians.
Then,
What you see is the surprisingly measured and well executed RESPONSE in self-defense from the Israelis.

One of the MAIN REASONS for the Palestinian side losing my support is that they constantly think everyone else is so stupid as to fall for these contrived 'victim shows'.
This has sunk to lows of people KNOWING that Israeli soldiers are in an emergency search for a terrorist and yet popping their children up into windows in hopes the children is shot,
then,
howling in outrage to the media over how 'Israel killing innocent children' and then USING THAT as an excuse to blow up an Israeli boy next time around.
Its insulting to me.

People say 'well just imagine if Palestinians did this?'
Sure.
Here is the difference over and over:
- The Palestinians would go onto a bus full of innocent civilians and horrifically slaughter them for being Jews.

- The Jews then GO FIND those responsible and in an attempt to save future lives they will try their best to shoot and kill the people who planned it or will do it again.

IF people cannot see the difference then there is no hope anymore and nothing means anything.
Its not hard to see it.

Now.. I am NOT saying Israel is always right or doesn't screw up and I am not commenting on their policies here.
I'm talking about these types of incidents.

Sorry.. in a total political and social PoV I actually have my sympathies for Palestinians in general and as meaning the regular working people and families,
but,
As far as I can see this is another example where the Israelis are CLEARLY the good guys doing the correct thing AND it will ultimately save innocent lives and stopped people who are clearly in the wrong.

Of course we will follow the story here to see more.
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I believe MOSAD are the worst terrorists in the globe
Now don't be stupid.
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Even though we may not know every detail about this incident I would say that overall the previous incidents suggest you are correct.
Meaning - it was self-defense.

Let me make this clear - I am NOT in love with Israel or running around arguing for them as my 'team'.
I may not even like Israel,
and,
I want to sympathize with any sincere hard-working Palestinian who is genuinely trying to live.

Problem.
Over and over again these incidents are NOT 'each is guilty' incidents but they are clearly Palestinian terrorists, murderers who absolutely can and will and often have INITIATED killings of innocent civilians.
Then,
What you see is the surprisingly measured and well executed RESPONSE in self-defense from the Israelis.

One of the MAIN REASONS for the Palestinian side losing my support is that they constantly think everyone else is so stupid as to fall for these contrived 'victim shows'.
This has sunk to lows of people KNOWING that Israeli soldiers are in an emergency search for a terrorist and yet popping their children up into windows in hopes the children is shot,
then,
howling in outrage to the media over how 'Israel killing innocent children' and then USING THAT as an excuse to blow up an Israeli boy next time around.
Its insulting to me.

People say 'well just imagine if Palestinians did this?'
Sure.
Here is the difference over and over:
- The Palestinians would go onto a bus full of innocent civilians and horrifically slaughter them for being Jews.

- The Jews then GO FIND those responsible and in an attempt to save future lives they will try their best to shoot and kill the people who planned it or will do it again.

IF people cannot see the difference then there is no hope anymore and nothing means anything.
Its not hard to see it.

Now.. I am NOT saying Israel is always right or doesn't screw up and I am not commenting on their policies here.
I'm talking about these types of incidents.

Sorry.. in a total political and social PoV I actually have my sympathies for Palestinians in general and as meaning the regular working people and families,
but,
As far as I can see this is another example where the Israelis are CLEARLY the good guys doing the correct thing AND it will ultimately save innocent lives and stopped people who are clearly in the wrong.

Of course we will follow the story here to see more.
I agree. The only thing that annoys me is the 'Muslim outrage' that will probably hit the UK. And they basically use the 'protests' to insult anyone who is not a muslim. And we let them.
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