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Jack_ · 14-12-2010, 09:35 PM

LOL, it's someone's time of the month...

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 09:38 PM

So, seeing as how no-one can produce a coherent counter argument, I'm either having no sex or am on my period? Have I missed a trick here and forgotten to tick which school I attend when I registered?
I expected a little better, to be honest. *******ing pathetic.

_Seth · 14-12-2010, 09:39 PM

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Watching it again, I am 100% on the side of the complainers. Their legs are WIDE open and they're doing EXTREMELY provocative dances. How would you feel if your 6 year old son was watching that? It's a FAMILY show, man.

Legend killer · 14-12-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick

So, seeing as how no-one can produce a coherent counter argument, I'm either having no sex or am on my period? Have I missed a trick here and forgotten to tick which school I attend when I registered?
I expected a little better, to be honest. *******ing pathetic.

PMSL i love this forum member

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frost Bite

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Watching it again, I am 100% on the side of the complainers. Their legs are WIDE open and they're doing EXTREMELY provocative dances. How would you feel if your 6 year old son was watching that? It's a FAMILY show, man.

I'm more concerned about young girls, and a little older than six, but yeah, it was awful ****e - but Smug and Smugger gave her a standing ovation so, hey, "this must be what wonderful is". Crap. ****e. Offensive drivel.

\PJ/ · 14-12-2010, 09:59 PM

But you are saying it's ok for boys to do it?!?! and also there is a remote you can turn it over if you think it got to much? I have never heard the XF being a family show before either? your going a bit over the top aswell you sound bitter.

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by \PJ/

But you are saying it's ok for boys to do it?!?! and also there is a remote you can turn it over if you think it got to much? I have never heard the XF being a family show before either? your going a bit over the top aswell you sound bitter.

OK for boys to do what?!? I've never seen any male performer come remotely close to that puke on Saturday night.
Have you ever tried to turn off something that six nine-year-old girls are watching?
Oh, and I sincerely hope it's children who are watching it and voting for it - with the standard of ****e that benefits from the worst of the screeching mobs. If there are adults who voted for One Direction, I'm perforating my own ear drums.

Now, am off to bed to bonk my husband senseless and the rest of you can go and piss off.

\PJ/ · 14-12-2010, 10:07 PM

You are missing the point, you don't act like an adult either.

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 10:12 PM

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You are missing the point, you don't act like an adult either.

In what way does objecting to my daughter being exposed to completely inappropriate drivel before the watershed equate to not acting like an adult? Pray tell, please.....
And please try a decipherable answer rather than an insult. And make it fast, I'm tired.

\PJ/ · 14-12-2010, 10:15 PM

You don't have to watch the show you know a performance about burlesque is going to be racy?

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 10:20 PM

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You don't have to watch the show you know a performance about burlesque is going to be racy?

Everything in life doesn't have to be quite so literal or bliddy lazy. A little bit of cop on and imagination and the spirit of the blatant plug didn't have to be sacrificed in the process of making the entire thing just a smidgen less objectionable.
In fact, I did have to watch it, as my daughter had arranged a birthday party around the bloomin' event. You can't shield your children from popular culture but you can try to steer the debate back down "sane" street.

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vixen

Yes seriously. I see no difference.

Except one lot is male, the other female.

Cant have a problem with half naked ladies gyrating round the stage if you dont have the same problem with males doing the same thing. And JLS was just an example I plucked out of mid air tbh...

The bolded part made me giggle too. Who knew such double standards/sexism were still alive today

Now, how did I miss THIS one?

Who knew such ignorant populist bull**** was making a comeback? It is NOT the same thing and if you don't know that by now I wonder who fell down on your education and where.

Jack_ · 14-12-2010, 10:36 PM

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 10:39 PM

I've often wondered what a 'troll' is.
Is it someone who's winning the argument? Or arguing with themselves while everyone else flounces about slapping each other on the back?
Just curious......

Vicky. · 14-12-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Now, how did I miss THIS one?

Who knew such ignorant populist bull**** was making a comeback? It is NOT the same thing and if you don't know that by now I wonder who fell down on your education and where.

Haha no need to get so personal

Course its the same thing. If you can get all uppity about women doing it, then you should be the same about blokes doing it.

patsylimerick · 14-12-2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vixen

Haha no need to get so personal

Course its the same thing. If you can get all uppity about women doing it, then you should be the same about blokes doing it.

There is an inherent physical threat around the sexual objectification of women that is simply non existent in the sexual objectification of men.
Most of the time we accept that tacitly and chose our limits and our viewing options. This **** should not be included in a family show.

MTVN · 14-12-2010, 11:07 PM

*wishes he could change his vote in the excessive oestrogen Razzie award*

Tom · 14-12-2010, 11:09 PM

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Seriously, now? At their raunchiest, JLS look like the Walton Brothers beside what was going on Saturday night.
And, as I said above, of course there's a difference. Men are only objectified in a joking manner because of their superior physical strength. The reality of the objectification of women sexually is rape, domestic violence and, at the milder end, unchecked misogyny.

Do you have a short memory or have you completely glossed over the fact that Rihanna was a domestic violence victim? If she thought that was a problem then she wouldn't have done it.

What do you make of this video?

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InOne · 15-12-2010, 01:11 AM

patsylimerick just shush. If all those kids around you are intelligent and not mindless drones then they will be fine. X Factor is not the whole world love

patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 08:03 AM

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patsylimerick just shush. If all those kids around you are intelligent and not mindless drones then they will be fine. X Factor is not the whole world love

Oh believe me, it ain't my whole world. The point is, intelligent as they may be, they are young and impressionable and, as I'm not one of those parents to put the TV on the skip, they are being exposed to the central tenets of popular culture. and one of those tenets, at the moment, is that women have to channel ***** to be successful in music. Now tell me, do you not think that's even a little bit pathetic? By the by, me and the kids had forgotten it by 6am when I was telling them to shurrup or they were put in the car and taken home, but the gist of this thread before I joined in was just jaw dropping mindless populist garbage. Forgive me for voicing my opinion - thought that's what I was here for.

patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Do you have a short memory or have you completely glossed over the fact that Rihanna was a domestic violence victim? If she thought that was a problem then she wouldn't have done it.

What do you make of this video?

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Believe me, Rihanna's assault was chief amongst my thoughts while I was typing - as were the very many more similar assaults that happen every day. You really don't see any link?

Oh, and Alexandra (lovely girl and all) is no artist. She's a product. I'm not interested.

patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

*wishes he could change his vote in the excessive oestrogen Razzie award*

I wish you could change it too - you should hear the speech, it's a humdinger.

fruit_cake · 15-12-2010, 08:33 AM

Patsy is right, the message this sends out to young girls and young boys is totally wrong

patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by christmas_cake

Patsy is right, the message this sends out to young girls and young boys is totally wrong

Thank you!!!.....for restoring my faith in cop on and human nature.... By the way, I never got around to making that Christmas cake and most of the bottle of Jameson is still intact. So I will be buying a cake and enjoying quite a few hot whiskeys between now and the big day. It's all good.

Jessica. · 15-12-2010, 08:50 AM

If they were good parents their kids would have been in bed when X Factor was on.

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