[MTVN]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Why lie? There's no reason to. He's made up with Harry. Harry knew Jay was annoyed with him about the bananas (etc) and would have disliked him when he said it. If anything, Jay not recalling what he said and therefore losing Harry his letter is just going to cause friction and get Jay nominated

He forgot. Simple

Yeah it would be of no benefit to him to pretend he didn't know, and I really don't think he'd do out of petty spite considering they actually get on ok. Aaron couldn't remember if it was him who'd said that Faye was better looking than Jem either, it happens.

[MTVN]

I did feel bad for Harry though, I think Jay probably should have apologised (maybe he did and they didn't show it, I dunno) even though he couldn't really be blamed

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah it would be of no benefit to him to pretend he didn't know, and I really don't think he'd do out of petty spite considering they actually get on ok. Aaron couldn't remember if it was him who'd said that Faye was better looking than Jem either, it happens.

Yes, but Jay's the only thick one of course

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I did feel bad for Harry though, I think Jay probably should have apologised (maybe he did and they didn't show it, I dunno) even though he couldn't really be blamed

From what we saw, it certainly didn't look as though Jay was in the least bit regretful, and certainly I didn't hear any "Sorry man" or suchlike ...... which at this stage, gives me all the more reason to suspect it was indeed deliberate - out of spite and malice.

Let's be honest here, it wouldn't be the first time Jay has behaved in such a way.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Yes, but Jay's the only thick one of course

In some people's opinions Kerry, yes, in this instance, he either was very thick, or being malicious. That's my opinion, which you clearly don't agree with.

It happens.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

From what we saw, it certainly didn't look as though Jay was in the least bit regretful, and certainly I didn't hear any "Sorry man" or suchlike ...... which at this stage, gives me all the more reason to suspect it was indeed deliberate - out of spite and malice.

Let's be honest here, it wouldn't be the first time Jay has behaved in such a way.

Yesterday you didn't think it was deliberate and instead were just criticising them for being stupid enough to forget If he didn't apologise then he probably should have done but then again I don't know if he did or didn't so there's not much point judging either way

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

In some people's opinions Kerry, yes, in this instance, he either was very thick, or being malicious. That's my opinion, which you clearly don't agree with.

It happens.

Don't be patronising

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Why lie? There's no reason to. He's made up with Harry. Harry knew Jay was annoyed with him about the bananas (etc) and would have disliked him when he said it. If anything, Jay not recalling what he said and therefore losing Harry his letter is just going to cause friction and get Jay nominated

He forgot. Simple

No he's a coward, when Harry asked him if he'd messed his clothes up in the bath, Jay said, nought to do with me mate, and ran off leaving Harry blaming anton and arden

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by icecakes

No he's a coward, when Harry asked him if he'd messed his clothes up in the bath, Jay said, nought to do with me mate, and ran off leaving Harry blaming anton and arden

Well you were talking about what we've seen today.......

[Angus]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Yes, but Jay's the only thick one of course

Not quite. There's also Anton, Louise, Tom, Faye, Jemma

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Well you were talking about what we've seen today.......

yes today we saw Jay, being a coward again, must be Jays motto
deny everything!

[MartianMark]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The diary room is meant to be the safe haven for private conversations - especially when used to vent off - that's meant to be the purpose of it being a private, locked and sealed room.

Agreed. Anything said in the DR should remain private at all costs. At the rate BB is exposing their DR sessions, it's no wonder the HM's would be more reserved and suppress what otherwise would be honest and truthful reactions and comments. If anything the DR provides the audience with an added and unique perspective for each HM. Threatening their privacy in the DR will just hinder any potential insights the audience would usually never get to witness.

[Visage]

There's still a chance Harry could get the letter if he succeeds in a personal task.

[Jords]

Im a yellow belly

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Visage

There's still a chance Harry could get the letter if he succeeds in a personal task.

I'm 99% sure he'll get the letter somehow

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by Visage

There's still a chance Harry could get the letter if he succeeds in a personal task.

Yes lets hope so, I like Harry

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yesterday you didn't think it was deliberate and instead were just criticising them for being stupid enough to forget If he didn't apologise then he probably should have done but then again I don't know if he did or didn't so there's not much point judging either way

The word 'Think'..... is crucial. Given that I, like you, don't know what Jay is thinking, means I can only make a guess. You will also note that the words I used in a more recent post, were 'at this stage, gives me all the more reason to suspect it was ' - because after reading some of the other quotes, I considered that an option also - I'm still open to thinking it could be the former though - since no one knows the real story - except Jay himself.

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Don't be patronising

Err... I was not being patronising, differences of opinions do happen.

I've seen a great many posts with the less polite comment of "Sh*t happens" and have yet to see you (or indeed any other moderator) reply to those posters telling them ''Don't be patronising".

[LivT]

Jay has typical characteristics of a compulsive liar. He feels more comfortable telling lies to avoid confrontation. Lets face it, the guy has little or no sense of right and wrong . Whatever the real reason in him not fessing up was , people speculating and disbelieving him is without doubt his own doing.....a case of crying wolf!

[fruit_cake]

If it was in a private diary room conversation it shouldn't be used. BB is very untrustworthy this year. If the housemates can't trust BB it's to the detriment of the program imo

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Visage

Jay has been pretty much a coward throughout this show. Right back when he knew Rebeckah had said what she did about Heaven, he sat there and said nothing!

I believe in this case as with Anton too, that they both come out with so much crap they genuinely don't know if it's something they've said or not.

A good liar has to have a good memory,so these two have no chance of ever telling the truth

[Visage]

Originally Posted by kazanne

A good liar has to have a good memory,so these two have no chance of ever telling the truth

Ha ha !!

[soundslike]

[QUOTE=Visage;4659432]Jay has been pretty much a coward throughout this show. Right back when he knew Rebeckah had said what she did about Heaven, he sat there and said nothing!

I believe in this case as with Anton too, that they both come out with so much crap they genuinely don't know if it's something they've said or not.[/QUOTE]

I agree with what you said. But as far as Jay not telling Heaven what Rebeckah had said I agree with what he did. Rebeckah didn't want to own up even though he gave her several chances to do so I thought he was right to keep quiet rather than flap about it.

It showed Rebeckah up IMO.

[dyfed]

It must have been great to get letters from home,however,I was shocked to hear Jay's mum say she was proud of him,I am old enough to be his grand mother,I would have taken the opportunity to kindly let him know what he was doing was unacceptable,who shaves their rear end in public,who sh..s in a fridge,,,,,,,,,maybe the house does strange things to some of them,do they not know how many are watching,I don't even live in the UK,so you could say,people are watching from around the world.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by icecakes

He daren't admit to harry,he had made that comment about him , so Harry could get his letter, that man is a total disgrace, I dont know why his mum is proud of him, I would be cringing.

Yes I thought the same, the sly,sneaky,slimy creep !!!

[exoticrosebud]

well i t must have been something very rivetting, cus ive forgot what he said as well !!!