[Scarlett.]

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[Smithy]

6 and a half mins?

can you condense it into a sentence or two?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

6 and a half mins?

can you condense it into a sentence or two?

Basically governments what the internet to be heavily watched, and want to straight out ban any kind of copyright breaking, even if you're just promoting someone you like, say, like you signature and avatar.

[lostalex]

why are you making 2 threads about the same thing?

[Mystic Mock]

When will these stupid people learn that they've lost? the majority don't want them to behave like China so **** off and sort out the emmigration problems,and the gun problems aswell.

it's ashame that i'm speaking about America like this as the everyday person over there seem nice but there Governments (Republicans in paticular) are absolutely crazy.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

When will these stupid people learn that they've lost? the majority don't want them to behave like China so **** off and sort out the emmigration problems,and the gun problems aswell.

it's ashame that i'm speaking about America like this as the everyday person over there seem nice but there Governments (Republicans in paticular) are absolutely crazy.

"stupid people" really? so you are perfectly hapy to have your work stolen and sold by someone else?

That fat bastard from new zealand was making millions for doing nothing, yu think that's right???

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

"stupid people" really? so you are perfectly hapy to have your work stolen and sold by someone else?

That fat bastard from new zealand was making millions for doing nothing, yu think that's right???

No but there's worser crimes out there than what he was committing and you can't deny that surely.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

why are you making 2 threads about the same thing?

ACTA is a whole different ball game to those old American bills, this is a trade agreement between several countries.

Again, I have no problem with protecting copyright, but turning into a China-esque policed state is NOT they way to go about it. Suppression of information is a very dangerous game.

[Mystic Mock]

Exactly Chewy and we should not be told what Avatar or Signatures we should have either.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Exactly Chewy and we should not be told what Avatar or Signatures we should have either.

i didn't say anything about yur ava or sig, wtf are you on about??

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i didn't say anything about yur ava or sig, wtf are you on about??

Not you,that is what the American Government is planning on doing,now how is that stealing money from the Americans?

[Scarlett.]

I think going after the uploaders of copyrighted material e.g. films, books, games are the ones who should face charges, and they deserve punishment.

But, think of it like this:

Minecraft is a indie game that rose to fame because people made Youtube videos, Tweeted about it, blogged about it on tumblr, talked and posted pictures of it on forums. Now consider this, all those methods of promotion are banned, Minecraft, possibly the biggest most revolutionary game in recent years would have simply been ignored. The developers don't benefit, they lose out, there's no websites to promote their games because they're illegal under ACTA.

[lostalex]

Those methods wouldn't be banned, unless those major wwebsites didn't properly moderate them. The internet is MEDIA, if the TV stations and newspapers are expected to carefuly chose what they publish, then why shouldn't major websites also be responsible for what they publish??

The truth is Google and Facebook and Twitter should be hiring hundreds of Americans to edit their websites, they get away with having a minimum staff though. Why can't google, a multi-billion dollar company hire hundreds of Americans to monitor it's site? Google could create hundreds of new jobs if this bill passed. That would be Good for the American economy.

These multimillion dollar companies are trying to get away with having people m onitor themselves, when they could be creating thousands of new jobs in the American economy.

They arn't protesting because they are worried about censorship, they are protesting because they don't want to have to create new jobs, and actually GIve Americans JOBS.

[MTVN]

I'm not even that bothered about copyright uploaders, intellectual property sucks

[lostalex]

Google and all these other silicon vally companies are not worried about censorship, they are worried about having to do more work, and hiring more people, causing their bottom line to go down, and losing PROFITS.

Cause if they had to hire people to moderate their sites, they'd lose PROFITS.

[lostalex]

hey don't want to have to HIRE more PEOPLE, that's the real issue.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Google and all these other silicon vally companies are not worried about censorship, they are worried about having to do more work, and hiring more people, causing their bottom line to go down, and losing PROFITS.

Cause if they had to hire people to moderate their sites, they'd lose PROFITS.

Youtube does moderate it's site, thats why its alive under current law, Google doesn't block sites (except for morally questionable ones), it's a search engine, it searches the internet. Liveleak and Youtube are worried about censorship, they are amazing FREE platforms for unadulterated truths, no half truths from Mr. Senator who has a bulging pocket full of bribe money, no lies from Mr. Rupert Murdoch's empire. Sites like Youtube and LiveLeak show the world as it really is, and the companies don't like it.

The internet as it stands today is the ownly place that the people truely control, the internet is free from the lies that Ministers and Senators want you to believe.

[Samuel.]

Poland is planning to sign the agreement apparently. I don't really know what that means in the grand scheme of things though

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Poland is planning to sign the agreement apparently. I don't really know what that means in the grand scheme of things though

That the Mayans was right.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Poland is planning to sign the agreement apparently. I don't really know what that means in the grand scheme of things though

Anonymous attacked a bunch of Poland's government websites, Poland is now unsure

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Anonymous attacked a bunch of Poland's government websites, Poland is now unsure

Why did Anonymous do that for? now we've got two countries possibly entering into dictatorship.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Google and all these other silicon vally companies are not worried about censorship, they are worried about having to do more work, and hiring more people, causing their bottom line to go down, and losing PROFITS.

Cause if they had to hire people to moderate their sites, they'd lose PROFITS.

Yes Google are sending a Email to Everyone.


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[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Why did Anonymous do that for? now we've got two countries possibly entering into dictatorship.

Because they were going to sign the ACTA

[Ramsay]

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-m...es-including-i
Well there we go..we're ****ed

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Karl

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-m...es-including-i
Well there we go..we're ****ed

Thats a damn nightmare right there.
ACTA is horrific it makes it legal to carry out deep packet inspections on all of your internet traffic so they can monitor everything you do online including your personal emails
There was an enquiry called the gallo report that was to see if there was a need for ACTA and if it was backed by people in the entertainment industry.
The final gallo report came with the backing via signatures of some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry.
Strangely some of the people they claimed had signed it swore that they hadnt and two of the names were of people that had been dead for at least four years.
They still used the gallo report as proof for the need of ACTA corrupt as hell.

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