[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

Russia

Good stuff

[Kizzy]

Did anyone really have a choice?

[GypsyGoth]

Youtube video

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Youtube video

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[arista]

Ukraine: Russia Approves Military Action

Bring it on - Feck off America



http://news.sky.com/story/1219302/uk...ilitary-action

[arista]

[Clash: At least 5,000 Pro-Putin
protesters have taken to the streets
of Dontesk marching to parliament]





[Claimed control: Sergei Aksyonov, the pro-Russian prime minister
of the Crimea, claimed control of security forces today,
though the Ukrainian government has
said his election on Thursday is invalid]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2ul1Lt6qZ

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

[Clash: At least 5,000 Pro-Putin
protesters have taken to the streets
of Dontesk marching to parliament]





[Claimed control: Sergei Aksyonov, the pro-Russian prime minister
of the Crimea, claimed control of security forces today,
though the Ukrainian government has
said his election on Thursday is invalid]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2ul1Lt6qZ

Where do you see this going arista long term. I noticed I think you said elsewhere that the only solution was for Ukraine to be likely split into East and West.
That I agree with.

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Where do you see this going arista long term. I noticed I think you said elsewhere that the only solution was for Ukraine to be likely split into East and West.
That I agree with.

Yes the Russian speaking
people need their own Crimea

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the Russian speaking
people need their own Crimea

I agree, I think that is the likely only solution to this really.

[arista]

[Carrying on as normal: A woman with shopping
walks past the unidentified
gunmen surrounding the base in Privolnoye]


90mins phone call with Putin
No Change

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

[Carrying on as normal: A woman with shopping
walks past the unidentified
gunmen surrounding the base in Privolnoye]

A gentleman would have helped her with her bags. Putin's thugs are obviously not gentlemen.

[arista]

[UK and France pull out of G8
preparatory talks over Ukraine crisis
British foreign secretary says Ukrainian
sovereignty and territory violated following
Russia's decision to take military action
Britain and France have pulled out of
preparatory talks due to be held in
the coming days for the G8 summit
in Sochi following Russia's decision
to take military action in Ukraine.]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ussia-military


tit for tat



Sign Of The Times

[Sticks]

Maybe our winter Olympic athletes should hand their medals back out of protest

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Maybe our winter Olympic athletes should hand their medals back out of protest

all 3 of them?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Maybe our winter Olympic athletes should hand their medals back out of protest

No they see Sport above Politics

[arista]

Local Russian Speaking Locals in Crimea
tell Putin to send more
to keep the Nazi's away from them

Reported on SkyNewsHD

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Local Russian Speaking Locals in Crimea
tell Putin to send more
to keep the Nazi's away from them

Reported on SkyNewsHD

the Russians are the Nazi's in this scenario, so that makes no sense.

So the Russians are saying they want to keep Crimea Russian, that sounds ethnically charged to me, they are saying that Crimea belongs to ETHINIC Russians... how is that not Nazi? but you claim the Ukrainian people who want Ukraine to be Ukrainian are Nazi??

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the Russians are the Nazi's in this scenario, so that makes no sense.

They in Crimea say the Nazi's are in the Ukraine side


do you know the History
of that place?

[Nedusa]

this is the most ridiculous non crisis I have ever seen. Russia holds all the cards ALL the cards, the West has nothing to say and can only shout like a toothless tiger with empty words and gestures.

Russia is after all only protecting it's military assets and has been asked to do so by the governor of the Crimea which has an agreement with Ukraine to allow Russian troops to protect its bases in the Crimea.

Europe can do nothing it cannot even offer financial support to Ukraine as it is broke, Russia on the other hand has already offered large amounts of money and in all likelihood Ukraine will have to accept.

This nonsense in the news is just the west trying not to loose face.......too late, now they should calm down and start talking with Mr Putin as elected leaders not spoilt brats who have chucked their toys out of their prams...!!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

this is the most ridiculous non crisis I have ever seen. Russia holds all the cards ALL the cards, the West has nothing to say and can only shout like a toothless tiger with empty words and gestures.

Russia is after all only protecting it's military assets and has been asked to do so by the governor of the Crimea which has an agreement with Ukraine to allow Russian troops to protect its bases in the Crimea.

Europe can do nothing it cannot even offer financial support to Ukraine as it is broke, Russia on the other hand has already offered large amounts of money and in all likelihood Ukraine will have to accept.

This nonsense in the news is just the west trying not to loose face.......too late, now they should calm down and start talking with Mr Putin as elected leaders not spoilt brats who have chucked their toys out of their prams...!!!!

Bang On Right.
If only Americans could understand that

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by arista

No they see Sport above Politics

So by keeping them they agree with military aggression, just like those commie athletes in 1980 did by attending the Moscow Olympics when the Russians had invaded Afghanistan.

Sport and politics do mix...

Those medals are tainted with innocent blood and should be sent back...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

So by keeping them they agree with military aggression, just like those commie athletes in 1980 did by attending the Moscow Olympics when the Russians had invaded Afghanistan.

Sport and politics do mix...

Those medals are tainted with innocent blood and should be sent back...

You can say that
But they do not care

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Bang On Right.
If only Americans could understand that

Americans? America has nothing to do with this! You obviously believe Russian propaganda, using America as a scapegoat,. WTF has America done besides speak out against the violence by the OLD government against protesters?

America supports a strong united Europe, and we believe joining the EU is a valid aspiration for the Ukraine. the EU is a strong institution, a just institution, aswell as a solid economic partnership between European countries that benefits all nations that participate. It's not surprising that many Ukrainians aspire to be part of that union.

You need to stop getting your news from Russia Today.

[lostalex]

Should southern California be allowed to become part of Mexico just because there are a lot of people of Mexican heritage living in southern California?

by your logic, we better kick all the Mexicans out now, because you think they have a right to annex part of California just because they speak spanish?

It sets a dangerous precedent, it's basically saying we should fear foreigners, because if there's too many of them, then they have a legitimate right to annex part of our country!