[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

drag her

[GypsyGoth]

She sounds like such a nightmare, there must be something wrong with her.

[Niamh.]

Why has she said your sister can't go back to the house? And has your dad not said anything about that? I know I keep going back to him but wtf? You're his kids :/

[AnnieK]

Yeah...I'm in agreement with Niamh now. Your dad has got to sort this. It's not on at all. It sounds like she's waited until they are married and is now going to try and squeeze you and your sisters out. It's now up to him to put her straight and let her know that you and your sisters are part of him and she cannot control you. It's time to sit down with your dad alone and tell him exactly what you feel.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Yeah...I'm in agreement with Niamh now. Your dad has got to sort this. It's not on at all. It sounds like she's waited until they are married and is now going to try and squeeze you and your sisters out. It's now up to him to put her straight and let her know that you and your sisters are part of him and she cannot control you. It's time to sit down with your dad alone and tell him exactly what you feel.

Thank you

I totally agree. It's just the wait until he actually gets back. His facebook is now not just his name, but now joined with his new 'wife'. She's putting all the pictures up of their wedding and them together and stuff. She is so seethrough, it's actually quite funny. Apparently my dad (which I know wasnt him) sent me a message saying 'I'm very disappointed in you, will talk when I am home' so god knows what she is going to pull on me now.

It's actually kind of funny how hard she is trying to push us away now. I'm stubborn when it comes to this though. There is no way I'm letting her push my dad away from us.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Apparently my dad (which I know wasnt him) sent me a message saying 'I'm very disappointed in you, will talk when I am home' so god knows what she is going to pull on me now.

I'd have exploded at her by now. But then that's probably what she's after.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'd have exploded at her by now. But then that's probably what she's after.

It is, and it's the only thing that's keeping me sane atm.

The worst thing is that my younger sister isn't coping with it very well. She's been in and out of hospital for the last 2 years and I'm worried that this is going to set her off again.

[Smithy]

Have you spoken to your dad about how your sister needs him to be there for her?

I don't get how he can be so blindsighted

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Thank you

I totally agree. It's just the wait until he actually gets back. His facebook is now not just his name, but now joined with his new 'wife'. She's putting all the pictures up of their wedding and them together and stuff. She is so seethrough, it's actually quite funny. Apparently my dad (which I know wasnt him) sent me a message saying 'I'm very disappointed in you, will talk when I am home' so god knows what she is going to pull on me now.

It's actually kind of funny how hard she is trying to push us away now. I'm stubborn when it comes to this though. There is no way I'm letting her push my dad away from us.

what would he be disappointed in you for?

[rubymoo]

I completely empathise with you and your sister.

The problem here is that your dad is in love (love is blind)

Your dad possibly see's you as grown up and that you have your own life, and he has his life.

This may sound harsh but i have seen so many men change completely over a woman, i've seen men so tight with their money become so generous with a new girlfriend, or they never took their dead wife out for a meal yet eat out regularly with a new girlfriend.

My dad pretty much abandoned me and my siblings when he met stepmother, and she is still one hell of a wicked bitch (she's the spawn of satan).

Sadly i have nothing to do with my dad and i refuse to go round to his house whilst she is there.

If you approach your dad will he side with you or her?

She sounds manipulative and wants you to play into her hands by wrecking your relationship with your dad......my advice......kill her with kindness, try to have a good heart when dealing with her, and reflect any negativity she aims at you back onto her, if she upsets you with snide comments, call her out on it straight away, with a ..."wow i find that comment really offensive/upsetting/uncalled for" if you do it enough she will stop.

Good luck to you, and remember, karma is a bitch!

[Niamh.]

Good advice there Ruby

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Good advice there Ruby

Thanks Niamh

It's just my experience with some of the men in my life, one being my own dad, one being my dad in law, one being my brother-in-law, and one being my friends ex husband.

It seems with these men they just aim to please their new partners and to hell with everyone else, the sad thing is that ultimately they have missed out on their families (whether they be children or grandchildren).

And sadly they will end up very lonely old men, i'm a big believer in you reap what you sow.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Thanks Niamh

It's just my experience with some of the men in my life, one being my own dad, one being my dad in law, one being my brother-in-law, and one being my friends ex husband.

It seems with these men they just aim to please their new partners and to hell with everyone else, the sad thing is that ultimately they have missed out on their families (whether they be children or grandchildren).

And sadly they will end up very lonely old men, i'm a big believer in you reap what you sow.

Indeed. I guess why I'd be so adamant in putting the blame on the dad rather than the new wife is because as a parent I could never imagine someone influencing my relationships with my kids in a negative way like that.

[LeatherTrumpet]

no woman will get between me and the small LT's


evil, wilful wicked things


and woman are no better

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no woman will get between me and the small LT's


evil, wilful wicked things


and woman are no better

and rightly so, no man or woman should ever interfere with a parents relationship with their child, if they do they're bad but the parent is worse for allowing it, don't you think?

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Indeed. I guess why I'd be so adamant in putting the blame on the dad rather than the new wife is because as a parent I could never imagine someone influencing my relationships with my kids in a negative way like that.

I know what you mean Niamh, it's because we're women!

I always say to my hubby, "if you should ever meet anyone else, please always put our girls first"

I ask this of him because i also don't understand how as a parent you can turn your back on your kids regardless of their ages.

And with me being on the receiving end, i know how devastating it is not to have a parent in my corner.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no woman will get between me and the small LT's


evil, wilful wicked things


and woman are no better

That's good to hear, and the small LT's are the richer for having you in their corner

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I know what you mean Niamh, it's because we're women!

I always say to my hubby, "if you should ever meet anyone else, please always put our girls first"

I ask this of him because i also don't understand how as a parent you can turn your back on your kids regardless of their ages.

And with me being on the receiving end, i know how devastating it is not to have a parent in my corner.

aww I don't know about that. My husband is an amazing dad, I know there's no way he'd ever put anyone before his kids ever. He also has a son from a previous relationship

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

aww I don't know about that. My husband is an amazing dad, I know there's no way he'd ever put anyone before his kids ever. He also has a son from a previous relationship

I shouldn't make such a sweeping generalisation on this forum

My hubby is fantastic and i know he'd be there for our girls, and my hubby's grandad is always there for all his children, grandchildren and great grandchildren!

I think the men i refer to have trouble living without a woman, so they need to keep them sweet, and that's where the trouble begins, because then the woman can rule the man.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I suppose I have experience on both ends.

My mother couldn't do enough for me and my sister and always fought to give us the best she could, we always came before anything else. I think she was a tad too selfless at times.

But our father put a lot of his own desires first. He'd go off and "live" his life the way he wanted without another thought for anyone else. Probably showing how he was too immature for kids at that point anyway. But that's another story.

But I suppose the positive of that is I know damn well what kind of father I DON'T want to be should I have children one day.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

and rightly so, no man or woman should ever interfere with a parents relationship with their child, if they do they're bad but the parent is worse for allowing it, don't you think?

i do and it is a painful subject for me right now

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, I suppose I have experience on both ends.

My mother couldn't do enough for me and my sister and always fought to give us the best she could, we always came before anything else. I think she was a tad too selfless at times.

But our father put a lot of his own desires first. He'd go off and "live" his life the way he wanted without another thought for anyone else. Probably showing how he was too immature for kids at that point anyway. But that's another story.

Atleast you had one parent who cared so much anyway Marsh. Sounds alot like my parents and me(and my brothers) actually

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i do and it is a painful subject for me right now

aw sorry to hear that LT, it can be worse for men when relationships break down, they don't have anywhere near as much rights to their kids as women do (here anyway) the laws need to move with the times

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, I suppose I have experience on both ends.

My mother couldn't do enough for me and my sister and always fought to give us the best she could, we always came before anything else. I think she was a tad too selfless at times.

But our father put a lot of his own desires first. He'd go off and "live" his life the way he wanted without another thought for anyone else. Probably showing how he was too immature for kids at that point anyway. But that's another story.

But I suppose the positive of that is I know damn well what kind of father I DON'T want to be should I have children one day.

I also learnt from my parents what i didn't want to be

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Atleast you had one parent who cared so much anyway Marsh. Sounds alot like my parents and me(and my brothers) actually

Yeah, exactly. It's what makes me appreciate her more than I would have under normal circumstances I think.

Originally Posted by rubymoo

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I also learnt from my parents what i didn't want to be

Yeah, I'll end the cycle. I remember when he finally apologised and tried to make up for all his wrongdoings and it turned out he'd pretty much just gone and done what his own parents had done and it was pretty much all he knew to begin with. Didn't excuse it or make it better but it just shows how those early years can **** someone's life forever if they let it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, exactly. It's what makes me appreciate her more than I would have under normal circumstances I think.





Yeah, I'll end the cycle. I remember when he finally apologised and tried to make up for all his wrongdoings and it turned out he'd pretty much just gone and done what his own parents had done and it was pretty much all he knew to begin with. Didn't excuse it or make it better but it just shows how those early years can **** someone's life forever if they let it.

marsh do not fight the lothario that lies within you. you are a lover of women (and probably men ) and no single woman will ever tame you

its in your jeans



what a slut