[Rob!]

I can’t believe for a second the public would look at what has been happening the past 3 years and keep the tories in power. Might be interesting to see if the Lib Dem’s could take advantage of the situation and step up to the plate again.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I can’t believe for a second the public would look at what has been happening the past 3 years and keep the tories in power. Might be interesting to see if the Lib Dem’s could take advantage of the situation and step up to the plate again.

Never underestimate the willingness of people to vote against their own interests.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Never underestimate the willingness of people to vote against their own interests.

Is anybody after this mess and America voting for Trump?

[AnnieK]

If they had any leader but the current one, if a GE was called I would imagine Labour would win with a landslide, but Corbyn is such a devise leader a lot of people I know who are life long Labour voters wouldn't vote for them now.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If they had any leader but the current one, if a GE was called I would imagine Labour would win with a landslide, but Corbyn is such a devise leader a lot of people I know who are life long Labour voters wouldn't vote for them now.

Half the Country?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by arista

Half the Country?

I have no idea Arista, I made it clear from my post I was talking of my personal experiences that's all.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I have no idea Arista, I made it clear from my post I was talking of my personal experiences that's all.

They will get the younger votes
so it may be "because of that amount"
Labour could win

[Twosugars]

I believe Labour would win bc they plan to promise a second ref in their manifesto. Many would disregard Corbyn and vote for that, even some tories.

[Jack_]

I’m basically looking for any option that facilitates a general election, but I think there could be a real chance that we end up with another hung parliament in which the parliamentary arithmetic is even more deadlocked. I think Labour would end up as the largest party, but what if the numbers were Labour 270, Tories 260? It’d be a nightmare

[Twosugars]

tbh this country is ****ed to be cursed with such poor leaders at this time

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I’m basically looking for any option that facilitates a general election, but I think there could be a real chance that we end up with another hung parliament in which the parliamentary arithmetic is even more deadlocked. I think Labour would end up as the largest party, but what if the numbers were Labour 270, Tories 260? It’d be a nightmare

I would be stunned if the tories managed that many votes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost by the same or even more as they did when Blair first came into power.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I believe Labour would win bc they plan to promise a second ref in their manifesto. Many would disregard Corbyn and vote for that, even some tories.

STOP this vile editing


bc = Because

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by arista

STOP this vile editing


bc = Because

How about you learn how to use the return key properly before you start critiquing others for their grammar?

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by arista

STOP this vile editing


bc = Because

Life in the fast Lane... no time to type out completed words or sentences... you should understand that more than most arista

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I would be stunned if the tories managed that many votes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost by the same or even more as they did when Blair first came into power.

I think if we leave without a deal and give it six months for the chaos to have really set in then you’d be right (and we could spend the next decade blaming them for trashing the economy, just like they did to Labour!), but any other scenario and I’m not yet convinced. The Tories always have a really horrible way of worming their way out of difficult situations as well, there’s a reason they’re the most successful political party in history. Self preservation at all costs. I just hope more of the electorate are waking up to the fact that the last three years have been all about their party with no concern for the country whatsoever.

I’m also really worried about Labour moving to back a second referendum. I know most people don’t agree with this but for the most part I think they’ve played a blinder on Brexit, they’ve been stuck between a rock and a hard place of striking the right balance between its remain-leaning membership and parliamentary party, and its leave-leaning voters (primarily in northern working class areas which they really needed to win back). The number one rule in politics is don’t interrupt your enemy while they’re making a mistake, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

Unfortunately the time was always going to come where they’re going to have to pick a side and roll with it, and I’m concerned that reneging on their promise to honour the referendum result isn’t going to play well with the voters who returned to Labour from UKIP. They can stockpile votes in urban remain areas all they like, but without them as well they’re not going to form a government.

It’s certainly interesting! And frankly I’m glad it’s all coming to a head, but I’m not sure where we proceed from here. Surely this government has to fall soon though? Her authority is in tatters.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

STOP this vile editing


bc = Because

Bite me Arista

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I think if we leave without a deal and give it six months for the chaos to have really set in then you’d be right (and we could spend the next decade blaming them for trashing the economy, just like they did to Labour!), but any other scenario and I’m not yet convinced. The Tories always have a really horrible way of worming their way out of difficult situations as well, there’s a reason they’re the most successful political party in history. Self preservation at all costs. I just hope more of the electorate are waking up to the fact that the last three years have been all about their party with no concern for the country whatsoever.

I’m also really worried about Labour moving to back a second referendum. I know most people don’t agree with this but for the most part I think they’ve played a blinder on Brexit, they’ve been stuck between a rock and a hard place of striking the right balance between its remain-leaning membership and parliamentary party, and its leave-leaning voters (primarily in northern working class areas which they really needed to win back). The number one rule in politics is don’t interrupt your enemy while they’re making a mistake, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

Unfortunately the time was always going to come where they’re going to have to pick a side and roll with it, and I’m concerned that reneging on their promise to honour the referendum result isn’t going to play well with the voters who returned to Labour from UKIP. They can stockpile votes in urban remain areas all they like, but without them as well they’re not going to form a government.

It’s certainly interesting! And frankly I’m glad it’s all coming to a head, but I’m not sure where we proceed from here. Surely this government has to fall soon though? Her authority is in tatters.

I mean I agree to an extent, but May has performed the incredible feat of pissing off both hardcore leavers and hardcore remainers by not listening to anybody highlighting the almost Shakesperian backstabbing that has been going on in the Conservative party for generations. That isn’t appealing to the public. Hardcore leavers are few and far between in the Labour Party (apparently about ten of them are up for leaving without a deal) and it’s also why I think this is the Lib Dem’s best hope of resurrecting themselves as a serious political opponent after they destroyed themselves during the coillition with the Tories. They’ve always made their manifesto to be the opposite to the conservatives. Whether they take advantage of that or not remains to be seen.
Either way, Labour are surely a shoe in for victory. The hilarious thing is the aggro the DUP are now giving May. Bet she’s loving having them on board now.

[Twosugars]

DUP says one year delay better than May's deal

her deal's dead then

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

DUP says one year delay better than May's deal

her deal's dead then

She should’ve let it rot weeks ago

[Sticks]

The most probable scenario at the bookies according to Radio 4 is No Deal Hard Brexit by default.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Rob!

How about you learn how to use the return key properly before you start critiquing others for their grammar?

Grammar?

He is a Dirty Cheat


bc is not a word

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The most probable scenario at the bookies according to Radio 4 is No Deal Hard Brexit by default.

Oh well if the bookies say it...!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The most probable scenario at the bookies according to Radio 4 is No Deal Hard Brexit by default.

But that's assuming no deal is reached
are you saying before April 12th
she can not get any deal through?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The most probable scenario at the bookies according to Radio 4 is No Deal Hard Brexit by default.

Remain was 1/5
Leave was 5/1

Hillary Clinton was 1/5
Trump was 5/1 (£50 bet bought my PS4 Pro )

Labour were favourites for the GE in 2008, we got the ConDem coalition govt.

Increased Tory majority was favourite for GE in 2017, they ended up in a piss weak minority propped up by the DUP.


Bookies are **** at politics.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Grammar?

He is a Dirty Cheat


bc is not a word

bully