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Old 03-04-2019, 07:17 PM #4026
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Hard Brexit,Soft Brexit,Red White and Blue Brexit,Clean Brexit,Brexit in name only Brexit,Smooth Brexit,Brexit means Brexit,Norway Brexit,Canada Plus Brexit,Cliff edge Brexit,Tory Brexit,Common Market 2.0 Brexit,Orderly Brexit...No Deal Brexit,WTO Brexit,Crash Exit,Dogs Brexit,Negotiated Brexit,The Brexit that Time Forgot,Once Upon A Time in Brexico......Aaargh!sfhfrvbf

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Latest Brexit vote news brought to you by me in the absence of Arista.

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MPs have voted by a majority of one to force the prime minister to ask for an extension to the Brexit process, in a bid to avoid any no-deal scenario.

The bill, put forward by Labour's Yvette Cooper, was passed by the Commons in just one day.

However, it will need to be approved by the Lords before it becomes law. It would also still be for the EU to decide whether to grant any extension.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47809717
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Sooner rather than later one of the 27 will say no more time, if that happens we will then have 2 days to agree something or bomb out in an un-orderly (sorry Cherie) fashion
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Sooner rather than later one of the 27 will say no more time, if that happens we will then have 2 days to agree something or bomb out in an un-orderly (sorry Cherie) fashion
Don't you mean leap victoriously from the EU unfettered by any scuzzy deals to a new golden age of prosperity and the sunny golden uplands of No Deal.

Here is an unsavoury thought

As the Withdrawal Agreement enshrined the rights of EU nationals, surely this right to settled status looks very shaky then, so does this not mean that the EU Nationals will have to leave as soon as we break free and their jobs given to British citizens?

It is therefore no large stretch to contend that the result of the referendum gave democratic legitimacy to racism.

I can say this because on the day after the result, I was in Newcastle at the Tyneside Cinema, celebrating their opening in High Friars Lane of Viccolo a new coffee shop / cocktail bar, and the EDL came past in a victory march along Pilgrim Street, Blackett Street, ending up at Monument. The Racists had clearly thought they had won. In the days that followed there was a clear rise in hate crime.

I have run the scenario above to other people locally with people I know, positing the lack of rights for EU nationals if the Withdrawal agreement never passes, and with some is up and lets kick them out now, British Job for British workers etc, and in one instant White British workers. There was no shame in their tone because racism is respectable now and has a democratic mandate, courtesy of David Cameron and his referendum...

It has got very dark...

Can I get back to being satirical and sarcastic now and singing about leaving with no deal?
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not a disorderly Brexit
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Due to the One Extra Vote
The Labour Cooper Longer Extension
is now being debated in The House Of Lords
they dragged in all the Very Old House of Lords in,
they showed a clip on SkyNewsHD.
Rare a motion goes into the next house so soon.

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...usive-11683506


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Why did Theresa May ditch a no-deal Brexit?
https://news.sky.com/story/why-did-t...rexit-11683841

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Sorry its not a bbc link.

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Don't you mean leap victoriously from the EU unfettered by any scuzzy deals to a new golden age of prosperity and the sunny golden uplands of No Deal.

Here is an unsavoury thought

As the Withdrawal Agreement enshrined the rights of EU nationals, surely this right to settled status looks very shaky then, so does this not mean that the EU Nationals will have to leave as soon as we break free and their jobs given to British citizens?

It is therefore no large stretch to contend that the result of the referendum gave democratic legitimacy to racism.

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It has got very dark...

Can I get back to being satirical and sarcastic now and singing about leaving with no deal?
Agree, Sticks.
Brexit is a golden opportunity for the far right. Sad times we live in.
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I just don't get how any sane person could be for a no deal Brexit? People will DIE, yet others are just like "that sounds fine by me, Brexit means Brexit, lets get out asap". It just doesn't make sense, a no deal Brexit would harm this country deeply.

When you think of the referendum, it was a 52%-48% split, which is a very close result, you then take into account that a sizeable portion of Leave voters were sold on an idea of a Norway type deal, or something along those lines, when you take that into account, there isn't really a majority vote by the public for a hard no deal Brexit. Even the latest YouGov figures show that the majority is against no deal

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Why did Theresa May ditch a no-deal Brexit?
https://news.sky.com/story/why-did-t...rexit-11683841

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Sorry its not a bbc link.
Does not matter what Theresa thinks, the EU are going to refuse any extensions to get rid of a troublesome issue. We leave with no deal next Friday.
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Does not matter what Theresa thinks, the EU are going to refuse any extensions to get rid of a troublesome issue. We leave with no deal next Friday.

But they do not want a No Deal
as well.
So a Long or Short Extension
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So a Long or Short Extension
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Don't count on it...
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Reading views from Europe, there's a growing fatigue with the whole thing and a wish to have it done and over with. The EU are not happy with the UK taking part in Euro elections as they planned to redistribute the seats and streamline the parliament.
Not to mention that there's no point of the UK MEPs if the UK leaves as far as the EU budget vote, the EU commission elections etc etc
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Reading views from Europe, there's a growing fatigue with the whole thing and a wish to have it done and over with. The EU are not happy with the UK taking part in Euro elections as they planned to redistribute the seats and streamline the parliament.
Not to mention that there's no point of the UK MEPs if the UK leaves as far as the EU budget vote, the EU commission elections etc etc

Yes The PM does not want any MEP's in the
EU Elections.

The House of Lords are still debating
the Cooper Motion.
Some in there say they will be debating all night?
They need their sleep the old codgers
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Yes The PM does not want any MEP's in the
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The House of Lords are still debating
the Cooper Motion.
Some in there say they will be debating all night?
They need their sleep the old codgers
they're asleep most of the time so
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