[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Done.

There's no incorrect answer to this question.

If you say so, Ashley.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

of course its an interesting thing and it leads into other areas like the gay voice/accent debacle

I think the "gay voice" isn't about being gay it's just about the person. Some gay people are quite flamboyant and that's when the "accent" comes out.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

I think that whatever you are, it's decided long before you're born.

[Liam-]

You're born with a sexuality, you can't choose it, if someone lives their life being with one gender, then later on in life discover a fondness of the same gender, that's not them choosing to be gay, or developing gayness, it's a piece of them that has just never reached the surface before, like you could go all your life not knowing you were allergic to something, then one day discovering you are by accidentally eating something that causes a reaction, it's the same principle, it just takes some people longer to realise it than others.

[Kyle]

Ashley can you give us some examples of cases you think where people have actually changed their sexuality cos I just can't see it mate sorry.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form

it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

Which I suppose in itself begs the question, can you help who you are attracted to?

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Ashley can you give us some examples of cases you think where people have actually changed their sexuality cos I just can't see it mate sorry.

Beliefs do not require sources.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

hhhmmmm I would say not in all cases for this because you find alot of paedophiles were victims of abuse as kids themselves

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Which itself begs the question, can you help who you are attracted to?

No and its a tough thing but you can chose not to abuse children just to get your rocks off

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Beliefs do not require sources.

They way you are brought up?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Beliefs do not require sources.

They should at least have some empirical basis if you want to challenge others to believe it.

[Liam-]

Why would anyone choose to be gay anyway? it's not exactly a benefitial way of life

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

hhhmmmm I would say not in all cases for this because you find alot of paedophiles were victims of abuse as kids themselves

Or it could be that lots more people than we realise have these attractions but if you are abused you are far more likely to act on them?




ie it does not stimulate feelings but merely makes you more likely to act on them

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

They should at least have some empirical basis if you want to challenge others to believe it.

I wasn't challenging anyone I just wanted to know what everyone else thought lmao

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Why would anyone choose to be gay anyway? it's not exactly a benefitial way of life

its getting better

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Or it could be that lots more people than we realise have these attractions but if you are abused you are far more likely to act on them?




ie it does not stimulate feelings but merely makes you more likely to act on them

I don't believe that no. I think that if you're abused as a kid it gives you a warped idea of what sex is and should be like

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I wasn't challenging anyone I just wanted to know what everyone else thought lmao

Well ok then can you tell us how you have come to the conclusion yourself that you believe people can change their sexuality?

I'm not looking for an argument btw I am genuinely intrigued that is all.

[Cherie]

It's an interesting question, personally I believe people are born gay, but as to whether people are born evil or whether their life experience shape them is not as clear cut to me

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Why would anyone choose to be gay anyway? it's not exactly a benefitial way of life

My gay friend, who's really happy and getting married next year, once said to me if he'd been able to choose when he was younger, no way would he have chosen to be gay. He'd have chosen to be straight and have a wife and kids.

[Northern Monkey]

I'm not a scientist or gay so i really would'nt like to say.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I'm not a scientist or gay so i really would'nt like to say.

you dont have to be alex fergusson or david beckham to have an opinion on man u

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

My gay friend, who's really happy and getting married next year, once said to me if he'd been able to choose when he was younger, no way would he have chosen to be gay. He'd have chosen to be straight and have a wife and kids.

That's pretty common I think, I know that if I had a choice I'd have chosen to be straight as well, I'm happy being gay, but life would have been way more easy if I wasn't, the notion that someone can choose their sexuality is ludicrous to me.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I would think just about all parents would want their kids straight just because most folks are and its easier


(and i dont want to hear "i just want them healthy and happy yada yada yada)


that is not to say when they are gay they stop loving them, in fact i would imagine when they do find out most love them even more - i know i would

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

But is it possible that one can like the opposite gender all their life, and end up falling in love with someone of the same gender?

I'd say that they were bisexual with a massive preference towards the opposite gender or that they repressed their bi/gay side.

Sexuality is not something that can change. No one would choose to be gay or bi if it was a choice, life is harder for anyone who isn't straight.