[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Klingonz

I ment that lotsa american blacks does hate gays. I did not wanna bring it out like that, but it is true.

Stop playing the gay card Andy.

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

quote :

Originally Posted by Hayden

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Stop playing the gay card Andy.

It was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me.

[rionablue]

He didn't do himself any favours. When he gets out of there I hope he finds a sense of humour because he clearly doesn't have it. I have been finding him preachy and dull and if he is saved again Friday (because he will DEFINITELY be up) he will get even more arrogant. It was a prank it was funny HE BLOODY WELL WASNT

[Amy Jade]

How does being a fan of Tiffany Pollard indicate somebody has anger issues towards gays?

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

How does being a fan of Tiffany Pollard indicate somebody has anger issues towards gays?

Once again, it was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Klingonz

It was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me.

He was comparing two scenarios and you turned it into something it wasn't

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

He was comparing two scenarios and you turned it into something it wasn't

No. As i said, it was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me. For third time. Why did she even do that for?

[Jack_]

*Big Brother on season

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Klingonz

No. As i said, it was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me. For third time. Why did she even do that for?

you turned it into something it wasn't - 2nd time

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

you turned it into something it wasn't - 2nd time

No i did not. I did bring the real issue up, what he was hiding. Can you explain why Hayden did use black vs gay reference then?

[Klingonz]

Especially this part

Originally Posted by Hayden

but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified....

Sounds quite racists and narrow minded to me. So i did not turned it into something it wasn't.

[*mazedsalv**]

And to those saying "well, Andy must have not overreacted because no one defended Ryan and Hughie bar Laura", well...

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

[jet]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

And to those saying "well, Andy must have not overreacted because no one defended Ryan and Hughie bar Laura", well...

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

Or maybe it's not within the bounds of possibility that people being stoned to death, thrown off buildings and many other horrors that were inflicted on gay people throughout the years actually does bring out feelings of utter disgust in him? That the fight to get from those horrors (which still exist) to today's gay marriage has been a long one that isn't to be taken lightly by two utter morons who have probably been getting on his tits for weeks with their attention seeking off and on fake showmance antics.
The man gave up a job he loved for his belief ffs. Hughie and Ryan wouldn't give up their freaking fake tan.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by jet

Or maybe it's not within the bounds of possibility that people being stoned to death, thrown off buildings and many other horrors that were inflicted on gay people throughout the years actually does bring out feelings of utter disgust in him? That the fight to get from those horrors (which still exist) to today's gay marriage has been a long one that isn't to be taken lightly by two utter morons who have probably been getting on his tits for weeks with their attention seeking off and on fake showmance antics.
The man gave up a job he loved for his belief ffs. Hughie and Ryan wouldn't give up their freaking fake tan.

I never said he shouldn't be disgusted by things happening elsewhere, but there was no need to even bring up what he did at all. It had no relevance to anything whatsoever in the slightest. He was trying to be as controversial as possible to make the two of them look bad. It was A JOKE.

Whether it was a funny one or not doesn't really matter. Just like i don't go round calling people peadophiles if they say "I'm really good with children", he shouldn't be shouting the stuff he shouted. He looked like a nutcase.

I am personally very worried for him. The fact he even made a comparison is worrying, it's as if he was thinking of a situation to arise so he could unleash all this stuff to make people look bad. His thought track going immediately to that is not right.

[jet]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I never said he shouldn't be disgusted by things happening elsewhere, but there was no need to even bring up what he did at all. It had no relevance to anything whatsoever in the slightest. He was trying to be as controversial as possible to make the two of them look bad. It was A JOKE.

Whether it was a funny one or not doesn't really matter. Just like i don't go round calling people peadophiles if they say "I'm really good with children", he shouldn't be shouting the stuff he shouted. He looked like a nutcase.

I am personally very worried for him. The fact he even made a comparison is worrying, it's as if he was thinking of a situation to arise so he could unleash all this stuff to make people look bad. His thought track going immediately to that is not right.

You said he brought up those things deliberately in a clever and sneaky way so people wouldn't disagree with him. I disagree as I said in my answer to your post. Nothing more to discuss.

[arista]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Went from a joke to weddings...to slavery, stoning to death and people being thrown off buildings?

Pathetic.

It was probably the most far fetched I have ever seen a discussion actually stretch to. It's like me jokingly punching my black mate and then bring told by someone else 'HOW DARE YOU INFLICT SLAVERY EMOTIONS AS A JOKE'.

I think it was a ploy for Andy to come across as the best PC gay person ever.

Ed even said on BOTS he would have found it funny and that he over exaggerated.

I still can't believe it.

Slav
he was SACKED from BBC
for attacking Boxer Tyson Furys
attitude on Gays.


Was Sacking : Correct : YES

Did he get the BBC in Trouble : Yes


Would you employ him : No.


Will someone attack him on the street: Yes very likely


FACTS

[Maru]

What's amazing to me is how Andy can slight and rub so many people the wrong way but yet still always seems to be justified.

That is pretty much hook line and sinker the way a good troll works.

It doesn't necessarily even have to discredit anything he believes or feels. A few times is enough for me to prove the man has absolutely no shame in using anyone by upsetting whoever and using whatever to get his point(s) across. If you already agree with him of course you'll fall in line because he's good at playing the victim/I'm actually harmless game, but I imagine it doesn't feel good to be around someone like that 24/7 in the house. You'd have to feel like a target is going to be painted on your back for not catering to it and you just know he will set you up for the fall next.

Do not like him. Not one bit. Sneaky. If anyone knows a way an American can vote, I'll gladly vote him out next eviction if he's up for nomination.

[jet]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-34329477.html

Andy

[mysargasso]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

And is Andy was to get annoyed at that stuff, why wasn't he offended by Sam's "bum boys" comment towards Ryan and Hughie.

And how do we know he didn't have something to say about that? They only show an hour of one day in the BB house, and there's no live feed beyond what the editors cut/paste for the viewers.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by arista

Slav
he was SACKED from BBC
for attacking Boxer Tyson Furys
attitude on Gays.


Was Sacking : Correct : YES

Did he get the BBC in Trouble : Yes


Would you employ him : No.


Will someone attack him on the street: Yes very likely


FACTS

Are you drunk?

He was suspended from the BBC for shaming them after they allowed a homophobic man to remain on the shortlist for 'sports personality of the year'. Andy was absolutely in the right and the BBC was hit with hard criticism for weeks both before and after Andys suspension by much of the public. Of course hes not about to attack anybody.

Better check those facts.

[mysargasso]

Originally Posted by jet

Or maybe it's not within the bounds of possibility that people being stoned to death, thrown off buildings and many other horrors that were inflicted on gay people throughout the years actually does bring out feelings of utter disgust in him? That the fight to get from those horrors (which still exist) to today's gay marriage has been a long one that isn't to be taken lightly by two utter morons who have probably been getting on his tits for weeks with their attention seeking off and on fake showmance antics.
The man gave up a job he loved for his belief ffs. Hughie and Ryan wouldn't give up their freaking fake tan.

Well put !

[arista]

Originally Posted by Withano

Are you drunk?

He was suspended from the BBC for shaming them after they allowed a homophobic man to remain on the shortlist for 'sports personality of the year'. Andy was absolutely in the right and the BBC was hit with hard criticism for weeks both before and after Andys suspension by much of the public. Of course hes not about to attack anybody.

Better check those facts.

No Drink.

It was a suspend - Now a SACK


The BBC has rules on getting Political
Andy broke them - that's a Fact

[arista]

[In his YouTube video - since deleted - Mr West accepted that he "shouldn't have given my opinion on something that was current". But he went on to say that he "couldn't forget the little boy I was when I was nine or 10 at school and I was being bullied for being camp and being gay".]

Andy - No one wants to Employ you him now

[LeatherTrumpet]

1. It was a very poor taste joke by the boys and did seem to take the piss right out of andy, i have no idea why the 2 immature brats did it

2. andy is a prissy twat and overreacted. ISIS throw gay people off buildings and stone them - its not like it was happening in Manchester.