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Old 04-08-2016, 08:03 AM   #226
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In fairness he might have qualified it, but it was edited out to create a talking point. I'm not a Biggins fan but I feel ythere might have been a bit more to the conversation.
..I understand what you're saying Cherie/what some are saying in the thread...(I was a Biggins fan, he's always seemed quite lovely..)...but "Bisexuals are people who don't want to admit to being gay".
..even if qualified with his own personal experiences of people he knows etc, would still be dismissing a sexuality in the way he has generalised it, no matter what the 'add ons' as it were...he's an intelligent person (or it would seem..)...so ignorance would seem unlikely but more prejudice/intolerance from someone who must have himself and 'of his time' especially, experienced so much 'denial' of homosexuality/any sexuality that did not conform to the 'norm' within society...
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:07 AM   #227
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..I understand what you're saying Cherie/what some are saying in the thread...(I was a Biggins fan, he's always seemed quite lovely..)...but "Bisexuals are people who don't want to admit to being gay".
..even if qualified with his own personal experiences of people he knows etc, would still be dismissing a sexuality in the way he has generalised it, no matter what the 'add ons' as it were...he's an intelligent person (or it would seem..)...so ignorance would seem unlikely but more prejudice/intolerance from someone who must have himself and 'of his time' especially, experienced so much 'denial' of homosexuality/any sexuality that did not conform to the 'norm' within society...
I will be interested to see if Emma questions him on it, and I hope she does so we can hear his views maybe he feels he is so well loved he can get away with remarks like that.. I was surprised at him in all honesty
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:10 AM   #228
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I will be interested to see if Emma questions him on it, and I hope she does so we can hear his views maybe he feels he is so well loved he can get away with remarks like that.. I was surprised at him in all honesty
..yeah, mind you she's probably very limited in what she's allowed to question on as well.....I don't believe with such a carefully highlighted/slanted and 'character' devising show, that they just say...go Emma, ask what you like.../cynical...
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:22 AM   #229
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..I understand what you're saying Cherie/what some are saying in the thread...(I was a Biggins fan, he's always seemed quite lovely..)...but "Bisexuals are people who don't want to admit to being gay".
..even if qualified with his own personal experiences of people he knows etc, would still be dismissing a sexuality in the way he has generalised it, no matter what the 'add ons' as it were...he's an intelligent person (or it would seem..)...so ignorance would seem unlikely but more prejudice/intolerance from someone who must have himself and 'of his time' especially, experienced so much 'denial' of homosexuality/any sexuality that did not conform to the 'norm' within society...
Bi sexual a are not just straights not admitting to being gay. They could be gays not wanting to admit they are actually straight and only want to be gay to broaden their sexual availability.
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...hmmm, but those situations Sam, if were the case for some individuals, wouldn't define someone as a bi-sexual though is really the thing of it and neither would they dismiss that sexuality which is what Biggins in his generalisation, did...
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:49 AM   #231
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I think its already been said by a few on here but unfortunately this attitude towards bisexuals by people like biggins is nothing new, or rare. Ironic and sad really. Its one of the big reasons the lbgt community have problems.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:37 PM   #232
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I disagree with Biggins 100% on that issue but...

People are entitled to have, and to express opinions that others 100% disagree with.

If not, we are all in trouble.
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Old 05-08-2016, 05:59 PM   #233
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He's against gay marriage as well. He's an old fashioned homosexual
He's married, ain't he?
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He makes me homouphobic. Even though I'm a homousexual.

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Old 05-08-2016, 06:44 PM   #235
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I disagree with Biggins 100% on that issue but...

People are entitled to have, and to express opinions that others 100% disagree with.

If not, we are all in trouble.
There is a difference between free speech and hate speech. As far as I'm concerned, what Biggins stated was nothing but hate. There may have been young bisexual men and women who were watching what he said and feeling even worse about themselves than they already do.

Let me say this, I have suffered depression from around the age of 13, mainly because of my sexuality. I was so confused. 'What am I?', I always thought to myself. 'How can I be attracted to both males and females? Something has to be wrong with me. I'm a freak. Okay, I'm probably just confused and need to figure out who I am'.

Fast forward to my 20's, and I was still feeling confused and weird because I am attracted to both males and females. This opinion of myself was formed through others' ignorance on the topic, from those who had been marinated in a toxicity and spitefulness because of some 'off' experience they may have had with someone. I took it on myself to do research about this topic. I found that there is something called a sexuality spectrum. Whilst there are many who are 100% gay or 100% straight; there are also many who fall on the spectrum anywhere in between. Someone can be 60% gay and 40% straight for example. A bisexual may be more attracted to one sex more than another - that doesn't mean they aren't bisexual.

If I, a bisexual male, get turned on by both males and females, what am I? Are you going to tell me that my feelings and instincts are wrong and a lie? Are you going to tell me that I'm disgusting?

When I was 19, I came out as gay as opposed to bisexual due to fear of being rejected by my own community. It was only a year ago that I built up the courage to admit to being bisexual to those around me. Ironically, my family found it harder to accept my bisexuality than me being gay. My current girlfriend doesn't mind and is very open-minded, so I'm very lucky there. I don't and have never slept around, which is a very common misconception of bisexuals. I have only ever slept with 3 people. I am very happy in my current relationship, and my gf knows that I would rather end our r/ship before I would ever even think about cheating on her. It doesn't even come into my mind.

I wish people would do research on a topic, especially when it's affecting their own community. There is a problem within the LGBTQ community with regards to gay people shunning bisexuals.

I am a bisexual and I am proud. My sexuality is normal and valid. If you can't get that through your very ignorant and misinformed brain, I feel sorry for you.
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I don't mind him now
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The Bisexuals have achieved justice
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It was awful but there are a lot of gay men who think bisexuals aren't real or think bisexuality is a stepping stone to coming out as gay
Well it happens i.e Olly Locke and Sam from Towie- started off they were bi now they are out as gay.
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...hmmm, but those situations Sam, if were the case for some individuals, wouldn't define someone as a bi-sexual though is really the thing of it and neither would they dismiss that sexuality which is what Biggins in his generalisation, did...
Well I dont really like biggins - not my cup of tea - but he loves Samatha Fox and I must admit I really like her - she hasnt given her sexuality a label and Biggins hasnt as far as I am aware said or done anything to make her feel uncomfortable?

I think he has probably said something else - will have to wait until Sunday to know as I can only watch on catch up!
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He can't have been removed for saying that?...
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"Bisexuals are people who don't want to admit to being gay".

Wtf?

How ignorant can you be?
But isn't it true to some extent? I have yet to meet someone who didn't eventually become ''full'' gay

But can Bernardo go in now then please
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