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17-03-2017, 11:20 AM | #51 | ||
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Why should we expect Scotland to to stay with us when there's obviously an imbalance of influence in an union in which each country should be equal? Like Niamh said, it's utterly hypocritical to make Scotland stay when the Brexit supporters apparently voted to leave because they didn't want to live under EU 'rule' anymore (It was immigration, let's be real.). It's the same situation. I don't support an EU rerun because it was obvious to anyone that wasn't wilfully ignorant what was going to happen if Leave won. People who make bad decisions deserve to face the consequences but the result of Scotland Ref, at the time, wasn't a bad decision. It was the only decision really but that decision has turned sour through no fault of Scotland's which I believe means they should get another shot at deciding whether or not they want independence. If they stay then they face the consequences with eyes open like the rest of us. |
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17-03-2017, 11:22 AM | #52 | ||
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17-03-2017, 11:24 AM | #53 | ||
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You see, Cherie. London is a city where as Scotland is a country. Do I REALLY have to explain the differences to you between the two and why a city becoming independent is a world apart than a country?
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17-03-2017, 11:31 AM | #54 | |||
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17-03-2017, 11:44 AM | #56 | |||
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[QUOTE=Dezzy;9252805]You see, Cherie. London is a city where as Scotland is a country. Do I REALLY have to explain the differences to you between the two and why a city becoming independent is a world apart than a country?
[/The capital was shown to be monumentaly out-of-step wit the rest of Britain after largely voting Remain while the nation voted to Leave the EU. But today the disconnect was heightened further as London's army of Bremain-backing resident called on the city's new mayor Sadiq Khan, to declare Greater London and its nine million population an independent state. Breakaway campaigners then want London to join Scotland in a new referendum which would allow them to re-join the EU. So far, nearly 65,000 people have signed a petition asking Labour's Mr Khan "to declare London independent, and apply to join the EU". It goes on to ask Mr Khan to "make the divorce official and move in with our friends on the continent". |
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17-03-2017, 11:50 AM | #57 | ||
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17-03-2017, 11:59 AM | #58 | |||
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And may wants to keep her tartan bargaining chip to tout at the WTO.
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17-03-2017, 12:08 PM | #59 | |||
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Brexiteers getting up in arms about a union between countries possibly ending?
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17-03-2017, 12:13 PM | #60 | ||
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'An independent Scotland would have to join the back of the queue if it wanted to rejoin the E U, the Spanish foreign minister has said.
Responding to Monday’s announcement from Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, that she intends to hold a second independence referendum , Alfonso Dastis said Spain was opposed to the fracturing of the UK.' https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...ck-of-eu-queue |
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17-03-2017, 12:53 PM | #61 | |||
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I can't imagine why you would think the government would need Scotland as a bargaining chip with the WTO. Where do you get these ideas?
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17-03-2017, 12:58 PM | #62 | |||
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17-03-2017, 01:02 PM | #63 | |||
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17-03-2017, 01:02 PM | #64 | ||
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No offence but I sometimes wonder as it does come across sometimes that if some said the world was round you would disagree for the sake of disagreeing. I may be wrong but to me it comes across that way on occasion.
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17-03-2017, 01:03 PM | #65 | |||
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I feel the same way.
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17-03-2017, 01:05 PM | #66 | |||
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Is this why you came into the thread, to disagree with my stance ladies?...
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17-03-2017, 01:06 PM | #67 | |||
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The world is square and that's the end of it
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17-03-2017, 01:07 PM | #68 | |||
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Why else?
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17-03-2017, 01:09 PM | #69 | |||
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Not at all first I didn't vote for Brexit, I am happy for a 2nd ref to take place just not at the time Nicola wants its, once the deal is done or not done or however it turns out, Nicola can have it after that
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17-03-2017, 01:11 PM | #70 | ||
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17-03-2017, 01:12 PM | #71 | |||
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I'd say more oblong....
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17-03-2017, 01:16 PM | #72 | ||
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17-03-2017, 01:19 PM | #73 | ||
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17-03-2017, 01:29 PM | #74 | ||
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I just think that Scotland has the grounds to demand another referendum as does NI if they want to rejoin Ireland or go it alone. Like I said before, if they decide to stay then they face the carnage with the rest of us but we can't force them to stay by denying a referendum. We could very well be forcing their hand if we make them wait. Scotland wouldn't leave if there was another Ref now. It would be better to do the vote ASAP and get it out the way then allow the embitterment and resentment to grow and cause Scotland to break away when we're in a sensitive position post brexit. Better to go through Brexit knowing that we stand united. |
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17-03-2017, 01:31 PM | #75 | ||
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You know, I do find it odd how against a Scottish Indy ref English people seem to be. I mean... You don't live here and therefore aren't affected by it directly... And APPARENTLY Scotland is nothing but a drain on UK funds being propped up by the English taxpayer... So why so against it? Why are you so bothered by it?
Is it simply because you find the notion that a large chunk of Scottish people don't want to be a part of Precious Britain offensive? Is it a "How dare you!" thing? Last edited by Toy Soldier; 17-03-2017 at 01:31 PM. |
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