[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Oh I see it's only a problem if you aren't saying it.

Its never been a problem (in my eyes) for reasons I've explained throughout the thread
comparing a word that describes a British sub-culture, to words that describe actual hatred towards entire sexes, genders, races, and ethnicities is bizarre, and completely inappropriate.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Therein lies the problem.
We don't know, if he made more of it either way then the voters would know exactly how he stands.

He's been in politics all his adult life, he's a career politician who is out of touch with real people. He doesn't know how to answer a question honestly, because he doesn't even know the answer.

I don't think he's a bad man, and he's well intentioned. But the bottom line is, he's a fool.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh and btw,IF the Tories ever bring back fox hunting,I will be a none voter.

May is all for re-introducing the vile 'pastime' of fox hunting and there's a very good chance that it'll happen once the election is out of the way.

So, if you needed any more, there's yet another fantastic reason to not vote Conservative (there's many more even worse reasons).

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Alf

He's been in politics all his adult life, he's a career politician who is out of touch with real people. He doesn't know how to answer a question honestly, because he doesn't even know the answer.

I don't think he's a bad man, and he's well intentioned. But the bottom line is, he's a fool.

I believe he's more in touch with the British public than most MP's. He just doesn't know how to get his message across. He comes over as, not passionate enough and not progressive enough and we all know, if he ever got in, there is going to be some fairly radical changes. We are Brits, we don't like change!!

As for answering a question honestly, I think he holds back on questions because he won't lie. This is why he's not a good salesman; he refuses to sell us something he can't make happen.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JTM45

May is all for re-introducing the vile 'pastime' of fox hunting and there's a very good chance that it'll happen once the election is out of the way.

So, if you needed any more, there's yet another fantastic reason to not vote Conservative (there's many more even worse reasons).

That is a main reason I have little time for Theresa May,she is a strong supporter of this vile barbaric hunting.

I really don't and don't even want to try to understand the thinking of people who can support this.
The fact it is the Conservative party that want to bring it back is also very telling for me.

If she gets returned with a bigger majority,there will be a vote on it,David Cameron wanted it back too.
Too late to stop it if she is sitting there with a bigger majority of her own MPs after this election,she will then have the numbers to ensure the vote to make it legal again, will get passed.

This is a big issue for me for I hold nothing but contempt for those who think this right and worse still a sport.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Once again lots of labelling and stereotyping going on most particularly from those who try to claim the moral high ground of the left.

Oh........The Irony of it!!!!!

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[Livia]

That's what we need, 20+ year old satire.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

where do you find these gems?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

where do you find these gems?

Youtube.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Youtube.

I don't need you to talk for me thanks

It's still as pertinent today as it was then wouldn't you say though?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Livia

That's what we need, 20+ year old satire.

Yeah, well Mr. Corbyn and cronies are going very retro going by their manifesto.
Talk about turning the clock back,

[Kizzy]

We need to turn back the clock... what has the clock going forward done for us? Nothing we are worse off now than we were then much worse :/

Schools, NHS, housing, mental health provision, social care public services they are at an all time low.


Get that clock back now!!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We need to turn back the clock... what has the clock going forward done for us? Nothing we are worse off now than we were then much worse :/

Schools, NHS, housing, mental health provision, social care public services they are at an all time low.


Get that clock back now!!

Absolutely right.

The Cons answer is,only more of the same failed policies.
If anyone is turning clocks back after recent announcements it's Mrs May.

[Kizzy]

''It’s certainly transformative what the Labour Party is suggesting here, and I think it’s important to be clear that this is not just about tax and spending; this is about the state getting deeply involved in much more of the private sector than it has been, certainly since the 1970s, and perhaps since the 1940s, with respect to, say, telling banks which branches they can’t close; setting minimum wages for a quarter of private sector workers and about 60% of young people, and dramatically improving labour regulation. All of those things are utterly different from anything we’ve experienced in many, many decades.

If you take what’s here at face value, then much of it I think is unprecedented even in the 1970s. This is a level of state intervention that probably goes back more decades than that.'


They may be different to what we have currently, and that is specifically why they're a good thing, we WANT wage protections and indeed regulation, what has deregulation caused other than corruption and reduced standards across industries affected?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

[Kizzy]

The fail mocking a 66yr old man falling on concrete steps, and blaming Corbyn when the police vehicle carrying him runs over a journalists foot... You couldn't make it up :/

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yeah, well Mr. Corbyn and cronies are going very retro going by their manifesto.
Talk about turning the clock back,

Ahem...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ever-year.html

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ahem...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ever-year.html

That was one year in a time not so under pressure by unacceptable and unsustainable levels of immigration.

Perhaps you should read up about the three-day week and the winter of discontent in the 70s.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That was one year in a time not so under pressure by unacceptable and unsustainable levels of immigration.

Perhaps you should read up about the three-day week and the winter of discontent in the 70s.

I have thank you I have been a student of sociological perspectives, the 3 day week was imposed by the conservative government it was due to the oil crisis but blamed on the miners to corrode public support.

76 was a boom year fast forward to 1980 and we have 3 million unemployed. The winter of discontent was in part strangely due to the weather, as the conditions actually affected spending and trade. There were also strikes due to wage caps, how is that ant different to now? Our public sector workers are in a state of permanent discontent!
Except there's no 5% limit on wage increases is there? The country is floundering and yet MPs want their 11%

I suggest you read about it as you have apparently missed the message.