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20-11-2017, 07:34 PM | #26 | ||
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Withano, I know you pride yourself on being liberal, but please read this, specifically directed at left wing men who think telling women that male people are also women is fine https://medium.com/@GappyTales/dear-...t-f20fbf6272cf Covers so many of the issues I see in this.
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20-11-2017, 07:40 PM | #27 | |||
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Obviously when theyre discussing abortions, they wont be thinking about transwomen, but they also wont be thinking about infertile or celibate women either, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Not every woman will be directly relevant to every single aspect of the womens officers job description.. but thats okay. I think the idea is more that they will be covered somewhere, and there is a person who will work to think of them when and where they are concerned.
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20-11-2017, 07:40 PM | #28 | |||
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20-11-2017, 07:43 PM | #29 | ||
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No surprise that men think this is fine. Sorry to stereotype but it is odd that it seems to be mainly men who see no issue with this.
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20-11-2017, 07:45 PM | #30 | ||
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No every aspect will not be relevant to every woman. But they will understand it more, you know, being of the class of women. Not the class of...men.
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20-11-2017, 07:47 PM | #31 | ||
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I don't understand how to link the original tweet..my link is going to replies?
But it seems this guy has also put himself forward for the Jo Cox women in leadership program. thats meant to be about...increasing women in leadership roles. Not a surprise. https://twitter.com/rachelherriotts/...96251237269506 Scroll up
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20-11-2017, 07:54 PM | #32 | |||
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Oh wait, your title suggested it was an actual male who got the job? Its an m2f trans person?
I'll be honest, I'm more fine with it now than before now. Like I just assumed it was a guy who was a bit of a feminist and studied up on the issues and laws. This makes way more sense
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20-11-2017, 07:54 PM | #33 | |||
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20-11-2017, 07:56 PM | #34 | ||
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Either way, all evidence points to 'transwomen' retaining a male pattern of offense. At the least
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20-11-2017, 07:57 PM | #35 | ||
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20-11-2017, 08:03 PM | #36 | |||
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20-11-2017, 08:03 PM | #37 | |||
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Yeh - but in a 'well fair enough' type way, they applied for the job and got it which implied they were the best for the role - even without the literal experience of living as a woman, just assumed they were gonna make up for that lack of exp with extra research and studying or something, but now, most of that changes.
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20-11-2017, 08:05 PM | #38 | |||
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Should have been specified that they only wanted opinions from females in the OP then - I didn't know?
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20-11-2017, 08:07 PM | #39 | |||
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btw Vicky you might also want to decide whether you want to call transwomen transwomen, 'transwomen' in inverted commas, or men, as you've been switching between all three in this thread
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20-11-2017, 08:13 PM | #40 | ||
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I did not only want answers from females. But its impossible to ignore that the most vocal transactivists are male people. And that overwhelmingly its males who have no issue at all with the erasure of women. And thats what it is, lets be honest. For example, highest grossing trilogy by a female is currently the matrix brothers who have decided they are women, first woman on the frontline is male, jenner is woman of the year and so on. And its always transwomen (males) yelling about wanting to put themselves and their penis into female changing rooms, or wanting transfers to womens prisons. Transactivists are on the whole, angry males with entitlement issues, also narcisistsic and refusing to see any possible issues to opening female areas up to all males. Why is this? Maybe because, not being women, they do not care that men are (on the whole) a danger to women. And as such see no problem with men being mixed with women in vulnerable situations
Not having lived as an actual woman, you are not really qualified on womens issues. And no 'living as a woman' does not mean wearing makeup and dresses. It means being ****ing female. Its mysoginistic bull**** to say men are women just because they say they are and follow stereotypes.
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20-11-2017, 08:14 PM | #41 | ||
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I should really start using 'trans identified males' instead. Makes much more sense.
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20-11-2017, 08:20 PM | #42 | ||
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Bet nobody knew it was International mens day yesterday.
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20-11-2017, 08:20 PM | #43 | |||
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I didn't start the thread
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20-11-2017, 08:23 PM | #44 | ||
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20-11-2017, 08:24 PM | #45 | |||
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20-11-2017, 08:26 PM | #46 | ||
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On the whole. As in, as a class. Not each individual man I do believe there are many many more decent men than bad ones. But I cannot deny that men, on the whole, are a danger to women.
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20-11-2017, 08:26 PM | #47 | |||
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I knew that yeh... but if Vicky thought mens opinions on the topic were irrelevant (she didnt) then she should have said in the OP.. but she didn't.. so can I discuss this or?
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20-11-2017, 08:28 PM | #48 | |||
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And yes, it is mostly about stereotypes with 'transgender' people. Not transsexual people though, who actually have sex dysphoria. Who are not the ones insting that they ARE women. Do you know how wide the 'trans umbrella' is now? Trans no longer means transsexual. No dysphoria is necessary, and its transphobic to suggest that it is. Or that trans is about 'born in the wrong body'.
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20-11-2017, 08:30 PM | #49 | |||
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You don't need my permission to discuss it, my opinion though was that as a man it won't effect you so you being fine with it is kind of irrelevant imo
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