[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

So drag queen gets in drag and people are disgusted but Ann supports conversion therapy and anyone who thinks that is vile are pc gone mad?

You can't make this **** up!

Who says they are disgusted by it?

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i will

drag ha Nicky!

[Marches]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

I really don’t think his personality changes all that much when he’s in drag. Most of the best drag acts don’t. You spend a long in in drag. It would be hard to keep up a full on character. Which is why I’m not a great fan of people like BenDeLaCreme who change their voice etc.. (although she has full on swung me round this season of All Stars. Killing it so far)

Tbh nah he’s a lot different as Courtney imo he tries to have two different appeals

[Vanessa]

Personality doesn't change that much when he's Courtney. He's jut more outrageous. He changes mostly in appearance.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

My take on it is he thinks he is more popular as Courtney than when he is Shane.

He has said himself that his personal life has not been as he wanted and has taken many knockbacks. His self esteem, starts and ends with Courtney.

Perhaps he might get to think after CBB ends, it is not only his choosing men who are straight but his obsession about speaking about gay rights constantly which can bore his love interests right out of the door.

oh shush he doesn't have an obsession about speaking gay rights are you joking?

[Marches]

Originally Posted by montblanc

oh shush he doesn't have an obsession about speaking gay rights are you joking?

He does because he knows people will lap it up he’s like a show pony saying and doing all the things he knows will gain him popularity

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by montblanc

oh shush he doesn't have an obsession about speaking gay rights are you joking?

Not at all, there hasn't been a spare moment when he hasn't been banging on about them.

Even his housemates nominated him for the very same reasons.

Don't shush me either. Free speech and all that!!!!

[y.winter]

Just like housemates have their "eviction outfit" - this is Shane's thing...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Not at all, there hasn't been a spare moment when he hasn't been banging on about them.

Even his housemates nominated him for the very same reasons.

Don't shush me either. Free speech and all that!!!!

Its his only topic of conversation ,and he threw black people and women into the lecture last night for a few extra votes ,and Ann gets accused to having strong feelings Jesus !! not ONCE has she lectured them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its his only topic of conversation ,and he threw black people and women into the lecture last night for a few extra votes ,and Ann gets accused to having strong feelings Jesus !! not ONCE has she lectured them

She doesn't get accused of having strong feelings, strong feelings are great.

Her views are, rightly, labelled bigoted. Because they are.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

She doesn't get accused of having strong feelings, strong feelings are great.

Her views are, rightly, labelled bigoted. Because they are.

I haven't heard any views unless she is asked for them by Shane

Then even he concedes she is entitled to them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I haven't heard any views unless she is asked for them by Shane

Then even he concedes she is entitled to them.

Nobody's said she isn't entitled to them.

Calling her bigoted isn't requesting she stop thinking the way she does. It's stating a fact.

[Marches]

Well it’s not a fact

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

She doesn't get accused of having strong feelings, strong feelings are great.

Her views are, rightly, labelled bigoted. Because they are.

But her reasons for those views aint.

[Donovan.]

Originally Posted by Donovan.

Okay so I've had this theory from like day 2 or 3 but I don't think I've posted it here yet. I have a feeling that because she's really only famous as a drag queen, her contract might have a higher fee for days that Courtney actually makes it onto the show. Would explain why she's very strict on dressing up for evictions, and why she dressed for that Spice Girls task. Production probably negotiated with her to make sure she's dressed for certain tasks, and they give her a slight heads up the morning of.

That's why at the beginning you saw Shane really trying to plan out his Courtney days, but then seem to slightly forget about it in the middle, and now he's back to making sure Courtney makes it on the show since there are only a few days left.

Over in the states, her friend Alaska was on this 'Scared Famous' show not too long ago, and I know she had to be in drag just about everyday that they filmed. She even had to show up late, halfway through the first episode, because Alaska came as Justin and they made her get ready first

I posted this in Chuff's thread, but I really wouldn't be surprised if channel five give her a lower fee for days that Shane makes it on the show and Courtney doesn't. Why pay a star, when they aren't being their 'starself.' They probably had things like launch part2, evictions, and the finale predetermined as events that Courtney had to show up for. Seeing as Courtney's the 'real celebrity' and Shane is relatively unknown

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

But her reasons for those views aint.

Ain't what? Bigoted?

But it gives the same result.

Whether her views are shaped by her childhood, her religion or a bad experience with gay people in her life, it results in her believing gay people are not entitled to equality alongside straight people. That's discrimination no matter where it stems from.

Disclaimer: I'm not holding Ann at gunpoint to change her views. She's entitled to them. Just as everyone else is entitled to comment on and question them.

[Withano]

Ann dresses like a miserable tory twat on evictions and in tasks and nobody bats an eyelid though

[Marches]

I think her dress sense is simple yet elegant

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Donovan.

I posted this in Chuff's thread, but I really wouldn't be surprised if channel five give her a lower fee for days that Shane makes it on the show and Courtney doesn't. Why pay a star, when they aren't being their 'starself.' They probably had things like launch part2, evictions, and the finale predetermined as events that Courtney had to show up for. Seeing as Courtney's the 'real celebrity' and Shane is relatively unknown

I really don't agree with this at all ,and Shane is hardly a star, Ive never heard of him before and neither have lots of others in here and Facebook,he's a z lister

[Marches]

I was talking abt Ann,,

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marches

I was talking abt Ann,,

I realised that and removed my comment, i thought you had lost your mind for a minute

[Donovan.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I really don't agree with this at all ,and Shane is hardly a star, Ive never heard of him before and neither have lots of others in here and Facebook,he's a z lister

That's exactly what I said. I know C5 have had a lax definition of the word celebrity since they took over CBB. The celebs they get, usually aren't that well known. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if C5 and their contract negotiators worked out a deal with Shane to make sure that Courtney made it on the show as much as possible. Ultimately, that's what he's known for, Courtney is basically the only reason he's a celeb. I doubt he could've just gone in there as Shane and been Shane in boy clothes the whole way through the series without putting Courtney on once. The producers wouldn't allow it as Shane isn't a star and there really wouldn't be a point in it.

[Marsh.]

So Shane is a Z lister because YOU haven't heard of him?

That's like saying Ann is a nobody because a 12 year old wouldn't have the foggiest who she is.

Ru Paul's Drag Race is internationally popular. The world extends beyond individual views of it.

[Donovan.]

Yeah and I wouldn't really say he's a z lister. He's international honestly, a lot of the RUgirls are.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Donovan.

That's exactly what I said. I know C5 have had a lax definition of the word celebrity since they took over CBB. The celebs they get, usually aren't that well known. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if C5 and their contract negotiators worked out a deal with Shane to make sure that Courtney made it on the show as much as possible. Ultimately, that's what he's known for, Courtney is basically the only reason he's a celeb. I doubt he could've just gone in there as Shane and been Shane in boy clothes the whole way through the series without putting Courtney on once. The producers wouldn't allow it as Shane isn't a star and there really wouldn't be a point in it.

Ive never heard of Courtney either, and they are ONE PERSON and that person is a man