[thesheriff443]

My brother was a butcher for 25 years and started a 13, he has worked in slaughter house culled dear and cut them up while still warm, but he won’t let a animal go hungry get cold or be in pain.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

there is a hierarchy on who is more evil than who between murderers, rapists etc.

The obvious answer to this is that whilst there may be a "hierarchy" they are all still criminals.

So, whilst different people justify their slaughter of animals for varying different reasons, they're still killing animals for their own ends and nothing to do with the wellbeing or life of the animal. So, again, it's all in the same box.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But I've already said in my original post on this thread that it's not nice for the animals (I especially don't like the methods on how the animals are killed) but as we both know the different reasons as to why the animals are killed, I would rather them be killed for Meat consumption or possible cures for diseases over a 'God' telling them to do it, or to look fashionable in some way, or because it's a fun sport for the individual. But that's how I see it personally, I get however that you see it differently.

And for me I wouldn't want either, I'd rather take the brick.

Thankfully Cannibalism is an illegal activity so they're definitely worse morally. It probably helps that it's counted as murder.

Cannibalism is illegal because we are humans, but on a moral level nothing wants to be killed to be eaten. You can say you're less evil than religious people who kill animals for sacrifice but they're not killing those animals because they are evil and just love killing things, they genuinely believe in what they're doing, just like most religious people do religious stuff because they genuinely believe it's right. So if they genuinely believe they're right, how does that make them evil? Just as you believe you're right to kill an animal for food. At the end of the day the end result is the animal is dead and it doesn't want to be dead, the animal is the only victim in either case and it doesn't give a **** why you did it, only that you did for a reason that benefits you

[thesheriff443]

I’d rather see an animal killed for food than one shot for sport.

Humans used to sacrifice humans for gifts to the gods.

Animals are killed by other animals it’s part of the food chain.

[thesheriff443]

Frankie Boyle does a joke, there is a vegetarian option, you can fxxx off.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’d rather see an animal killed for food than one shot for sport.

Humans used to sacrifice humans for gifts to the gods.

Animals are killed by other animals it’s part of the food chain.

I know that sheriff ,but animals have no conscience that they are causing pain and distress for an ideology , and are all those slaughtered animals actually eaten ? and if its for food why is it only held every 5 years ? from the description the killing field is the size of a football pitch !!! you can only imagine the carnage and fear for those animals and people climbing poles to get a look, some people are barbaric, you only have to visit Spain/China etc to see that.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I know that sheriff ,but animals have no conscience that they are causing pain and distress for an ideology , and are all those slaughtered animals actually eaten ? and if its for food why is it only held every 5 years ? from the description the killing field is the size of a football pitch !!! you can only imagine the carnage and fear for those animals and people climbing poles to get a look, some people are barbaric, you only have to visit Spain/China etc to see that.

I’m on your side, if you read back through.

[Niamh.]

Deleted some posts in here, can people try to stay on topic please

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

I spent 6 months trekking round Nepal 30 years ago and they are the loveliest,kindest and most hard working people I've ever come across. Unfortunately being also amongst the poorest nations of the world means they don't always see animal rights quite the way we do but I would say they don't treat animals badly out of cruelty more of necessity!

Thankyou for a bit of perspective. We may not agree with ancient practices but to disrespect other civilisations in a colonial manner while turning a blind eye to modern injustices closer to home to me smacks of hypocrisy.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Thankyou for a bit of perspective. We may not agree with ancient practices but to disrespect other civilisations in a colonial manner while turning a blind eye to modern injustices closer to home to me smacks of hypocrisy.

no one is saying they are not nice people, they are uneducated people when it comes to understanding the world and are still wracked with superstition and fear believing in fake gods

"Around 200 butchers wielding curved kukri knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals."


the reason they do this is superstition and there is no need


This thread is specifically about this event.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no one is saying they are not nice people, they are uneducated people when it comes to understanding the world and are still wracked with superstition and fear believing in fake gods

"Around 200 butchers wielding curved kukri knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals."


the reason they do this is superstition and there is no need


This thread is specifically about this event.

[Marsh.]

Uneducated for not seeing the world in the same way as LT.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no one is saying they are not nice people, they are uneducated people when it comes to understanding the world and are still wracked with superstition and fear believing in fake gods

"Around 200 butchers wielding curved kukri knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals."


the reason they do this is superstition and there is no need


This thread is specifically about this event.

By whom do they need educating? As I said different civilisation different rules. It's not that long ago the western world was as barbarous.

If it makes you feel better imagine all the foxes ripped to pieces over a year or two in one arena or any other animal that is bred for 'sport' by the genteel, different perspective same outcome.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Uneducated for not seeing the world in the same way as LT.

Uneducated because they are uneducated. It's not a slur... it's a fact.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Uneducated because they are uneducated. It's not a slur... it's a fact.

Not really. It's different moral standards.

Just because LT is not religious doesn't give him any highground.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not really. It's different moral standards.

Just because LT is not religious doesn't give him any highground.

They aren't as advanced as we are. They are what we were... They are not educated. They may be intelligent... but educated? No.

LT owns the high ground. Or at least has a long-term lease on it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

They aren't as advanced as we are. They are what we were... They are not educated. They may be intelligent... but educated? No.

LT owns the high ground. Or at least has a long-term lease on it.

I was talking more his disparaging comments about religion, despite our own country's religious people and despite our apparently more educated population.

Well he'd have to purchase his high ground, he sure didn't earn it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I was talking more his disparaging comments about religion, despite our own country's religious people and despite our apparently more educated population.

Well he'd have to purchase his high ground, he sure didn't earn it.

Yeah, but LT makes disparaging comments about all religions, it's all part of his mystique.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Uneducated because they are uneducated. It's not a slur... it's a fact.

By who's standards Livia...
And in what respect uneducated?

Like brexit means brexit what does 'uneducated' in the context of the whole world mean to you?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not really. It's different moral standards.

Just because LT is not religious doesn't give him any highground.

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

They aren't as advanced as we are. They are what we were... They are not educated. They may be intelligent... but educated? No.

LT owns the high ground. Or at least has a long-term lease on it.

I'm not religious either.. can I have some high ground?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Tbf you could use that argument in the west aswell to anyone who follows any religion and why they still believe what they do

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Science giveth and science taketh away...

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Tbf you could use that argument in the west aswell to anyone who follows any religion and why they still believe what they do

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

So the old testament and 'an eye for an eye' is outdated and wrong?

I'm telling ...