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The Slim Reaper · 16-07-2020, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I'm kind of shouted down in here when I refer to the legality of anything. And yet it's still regularly used as a stick to beat me in this playground, isn't it.

I've neither shouted you down nor tried to beat you with a stick. You made a statement, and I asked a fair question.

Toy Soldier · 16-07-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s more that if we in the U.K. say the same of citizens of other countries, that they should be returned etc...we should practice what we preach...

Every country in the world that has a prisoner with a British parent should strip their citizenship and put them on a plane to London. The UK has set the precedent so can't really complain (but would, of course, oh so loudly).

arista · 16-07-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...surely it’s that she can return to the U.K. to plead her case, Arista...the thread title isn’t completely accurate...

Nicky91 · 16-07-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

You can have her, you know....

she needs to live somewhere, you know

one more into our country doesn't make a huge difference too

we'll have moronic clown Wilders moaning but no one else in parliament listens to that racist idiot anyway so

Mitchell · 16-07-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Every country in the world that has a prisoner with a British parent should strip their citizenship and put them on a plane to London. The UK has set the precedent so can't really complain (but would, of course, oh so loudly).

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Ammi · 16-07-2020, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

...yeah, to challenge the decision...so your title is not complete, Arista...and therefore not entirely accurate...

Toy Soldier · 16-07-2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, to challenge the decision...so your title is not complete, Arista...and therefore not entirely accurate...

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thesheriff443 · 16-07-2020, 11:26 AM

She needs a british bullet in the back of her head.

A hate filled breeding machine, who probably killed her kids.

Niamh. · 16-07-2020, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s more that if we in the U.K. say the same of citizens of other countries, that they should be returned etc...we should practice what we preach...

Yep for sure. We had to take back an Irish "ISIS Bride" last year.

Livia · 16-07-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No one offered a valid argument for why someone born and radicalised in the UK is not the UK's responsibility at the time and no one is now. More importantly; no one even bothered to try. "We don't want her because she's dangerous and that's that" was the extent of the counter-argument. Never any response to why Bangladesh should want her either, other than "that's not our problem". It's not really a debate, is it.

Bangladesh never had any legal responsibility to take her and I'm not sure why that was ever a "plan".

It's my opinion that neither the US nor Europe should be forced to take back ISIS traitors. However, I do think it's our problem and we should go much further is finding a solution but I don't think that solution should be returning them to the country they betrayed in the first place. I really don't know what the answer is, it's kind of uncharted territory. But my instinct is that they should not return.

Ammi · 16-07-2020, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep for sure. We had to take back an Irish "ISIS Bride" last year.

...I don’t think any of us are entirely comfortable with that idea which is exactly why we can’t expect other countries to be okay with it... life is not one our own terms’, that’s not what it is as much as we may like it to be..

bitontheslide · 16-07-2020, 11:30 AM

i don't know the legal technicalities, so I can't comment really. Rule number 1 is to take the emotion out of it and follow the law

The Slim Reaper · 16-07-2020, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

She needs a british bullet in the back of her head.

A hate filled breeding machine, who probably killed her kids.

You sure showed her what it means to hate.

caprimint · 16-07-2020, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Bangladesh never had any legal responsibility to take her and I'm not sure why that was ever a "plan".

It's my opinion that neither the US nor Europe should be forced to take back ISIS traitors. However, I do think it's our problem and we should go much further is finding a solution but I don't think that solution should be returning them to the country they betrayed in the first place. I really don't know what the answer is, it's kind of uncharted territory. But my instinct is that they should not return.

Yeah I agree with this

Nicky91 · 16-07-2020, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

She needs a british bullet in the back of her head.

A hate filled breeding machine, who probably killed her kids.

her elder two kids no information there

however her youngest child, who was born in refugee camp, cause of death was lung infection (back in March last year)

Livia · 16-07-2020, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Every country in the world that has a prisoner with a British parent should strip their citizenship and put them on a plane to London. The UK has set the precedent so can't really complain (but would, of course, oh so loudly).

That's not quite the same thing... is it. We're talking about a woman who left this country voluntarily, to join an organisation intent on destroying us.

Ammi · 16-07-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't know the legal technicalities, so I can't comment really. Rule number 1 is to take the emotion out of it and follow the law

..and the law says that she’s entitled to plead her case...

thesheriff443 · 16-07-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You sure showed her what it means to hate.

I don’t hate her it’s the decent thing to do to her and many others.

Ammi · 16-07-2020, 11:34 AM

...what is thought that ISIS would have done to us is what we should do to her...?...that would make us all of the same level of those we condemn as ‘evil’...

thesheriff443 · 16-07-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...what is thought that ISIS would have done to us is what we should do to her...?...that would make us all of the same level of those we condemn as ‘evil’...

You reap what you sow ammi.

A dangerous dog gets put to sleep.

Ammi · 16-07-2020, 11:38 AM

...she is reaping what she’s sowed, which is why shes trying to plead a case right now...

The Slim Reaper · 16-07-2020, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You reap what you sow ammi.

A dangerous dog gets put to sleep.

I canine believe it, you should always let sleeping dogs lie.

Ammi · 16-07-2020, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I canine believe it, you should always let sleeping dogs lie.

...rule the place with jokes...(..you looney..

..)...

Toy Soldier · 16-07-2020, 11:40 AM

IMO an attempt should always be made to deprogramme and rehabilitate, if only because doing so successfully would send a much stronger message than anything else. What should happen to her is a totally separate debate though, really.