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28-10-2020, 01:02 AM | #1 | |||
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His mother was behind him
if only she grabbed the knife from her son? NBC Oct. 27, 2020, 11:16 AM GMT / Updated Oct. 27, 2020, 9:42 PM GMT By Rachel Elbaum, Kurt Chirbas, Colin Sheeley and Julie Goldstein [Police in Philadelphia shot and killed a Black man on Monday, triggering protests that saw at least 30 officers injured, officials said. Police said they shot Walter Wallace Jr., 27, after responding to a call about a man armed with a knife. The responding officers ordered Wallace “several times” to drop the knife and he continued to “advance towards” them, according to a statement. They then fired their weapons “multiple times,” shooting him in the chest and shoulder, and he was pronounced dead at the hospital just after 4 p.m., the statement added. Wallace was recently married, and had seven children and one on the way, according to a statement from his cousin Carnell Hurley made on behalf of his family. He was shot in front of his mother and brother, Hurley said. Hurley said in the statement that Wallace was “at least 20 feet away” from the officers and they “shot a dozen shots.”] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...tests-n1244888 Last edited by arista; 28-10-2020 at 01:05 AM. |
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28-10-2020, 02:49 AM | #2 | |||
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another vice
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I mean it was either the police get killed or him
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28-10-2020, 03:36 AM | #3 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...I don’t understand why it so often seems to be shoot to kill...Surely tasers could have been used or a shot to disable him so an arrest could have been possible...
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28-10-2020, 05:34 AM | #4 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Or shoot him in the leg
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28-10-2020, 06:41 AM | #5 | |||
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28-10-2020, 06:51 AM | #6 | |||
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...what about shooting to disable and prevent, rather than kill, then...(...assuming there’s was no tasers available for this force...)...loss of life should always be a last resort, rather than a first reaction, which is sadly too often seen to happen...
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28-10-2020, 06:59 AM | #7 | |||
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self-oscillating
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you never shoot to disable Ammi, its next to impossible and requires extreme skill, not something most cops will be trained for. If they shoot, they intend to kill
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28-10-2020, 07:06 AM | #8 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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‘I will respect the humanity of those whom I encounter, both victim and suspect alike. I will treat life as sacrosanct and will only use deadly physical force as a last resort. If I must employ deadly force, I will strive to preserve life once it has been applied.‘ |
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28-10-2020, 07:07 AM | #9 | |||
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Live by the sword, you die by the sword I'm afraid.
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28-10-2020, 07:39 AM | #10 | |||
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You know my methods
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Why shooting to wound doesn’t make sense scientifically, legally, or tactically
When I encounter civilian response to officer-involved shootings, it’s very often ‘Why didn’t they just shoot him in the leg?’” Dr. Bill Lewinski, executive director of the Force Science Institute, told Force Science News in a 2006 interview centered on Paterson’s proposed legislation. “When civilians judge police shooting deaths–on juries, on review boards, in the media, in the community–this same argument is often brought forward. Shooting to wound is naively regarded as a reasonable means of stopping dangerous behavior. “In reality, this thinking is a result of ‘training by Hollywood,’ in which movie and TV cops are able to do anything to control the outcomes of events that serve the director’s dramatic interests. It reflects a misconception of real-life dynamics and ends up imposing unrealistic expectations of skill on real-life officers.” “Hands and arms can be the fastest-moving body parts. For example, an average suspect can move his hand and forearm across his body to a 90-degree angle in 12/100 of a second. He can move his hand from his hip to shoulder height in 18/100 of a second. “The average officer pulling the trigger as fast as he can on a Glock, one of the fastest- cycling semi-autos, requires 1/4 second to discharge each round. “There is no way an officer can react, track, shoot and reliably hit a threatening suspect’s forearm or a weapon in a suspect’s hand in the time spans involved. “Even if the suspect held his weapon arm steady for half a second or more, an accurate hit would be highly unlikely, and in police shootings the suspect and his weapon are seldom stationary. Plus, the officer himself may be moving as he shoots. more details here: https://www.police1.com/patrol-issue...dYvNUEECtIWRI/ |
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28-10-2020, 07:41 AM | #11 | |||
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this is also why forming certain opinions and organisations by sketchy videos by civilians is also a very bad idea...
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28-10-2020, 07:42 AM | #12 | |||
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it was self-defence by the police, case closed
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28-10-2020, 07:44 AM | #13 | |||
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...the mayor has just asked for the case to be opened, Inspector Nicky.....I’m sure that they’ll look at it a bit before they close it...I hope that’ll happen anyway...
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28-10-2020, 07:47 AM | #14 | |||
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he is not supposed to have a knife on him out on the streets, he could've stabbed multiple people to death, he was a threat and he was taken down
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28-10-2020, 07:59 AM | #15 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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Jeez, so riots even kick off when the person shot was attacking the police with a knife?
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28-10-2020, 08:11 AM | #16 | |||
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You know my methods
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28-10-2020, 08:26 AM | #17 | |||
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yep, everything to seek attention for likes and because those people are just feeling bored otherwise
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28-10-2020, 08:32 AM | #18 | |||
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28-10-2020, 08:37 AM | #19 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...an American Police Force oath...
‘I will respect the humanity of those whom I encounter, both victim and suspect alike. I will treat life as sacrosanct and will only use deadly physical force as a last resort. If I must employ deadly force, I will strive to preserve life once it has been applied.‘ |
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28-10-2020, 08:42 AM | #20 | |||
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I fully respect that people are unlawfully killed by police in america and they should be held accountable, but the reporting of this event doesn't suggest that is applicable in this case Quote:
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28-10-2020, 08:51 AM | #21 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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28-10-2020, 08:52 AM | #22 | |||
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28-10-2020, 08:55 AM | #23 | |||
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others may have been unlawfully killed by police, but here in this scenario they had to shoot to kill
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28-10-2020, 09:01 AM | #24 | |||
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No deescelation, no attempts to disarm him, another tick in the trigger happy cops box
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28-10-2020, 09:01 AM | #25 | |||
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