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Old 06-12-2020, 12:18 PM #51
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Don't bring divisive politics to your place of work then, especially when you're working for the people of the community.

Take that sh!t to social media.

Get used to it, because as long as they keep kneeling, they're gonna get boo'd, that's just the way it is.

The only way to stop that, is to leave your divisive politics at home and get on with the job you're paid for, playing football.
So basically, a bunch of racist snowflakes got upset over people kneeling, okay.
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Freedom of expression is not being able to be racist or support racism publicly and freely without consequence. Especially in someone else's space who do not tolerate it.
I've said a piece on this incident earlier.
With so few there, it should be easy to identify the ones who booed.
Then just bar them coming again if they are going to act so disrespectfully.

It must be easy to find out who did at this time.

As to your post above Marsh, I agree 100% to what you've said.
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I've said a piece on this incident earlier.
With so few there, it should be easy to identify the ones who booed.
Then just bar them coming again if they are going to act so disrespectfully.

It must be easy to find out who did at this time.

As to your post above Marsh, I agree 100% to what you've said.
Spot on, Joey.
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The Karen energy in this tweet is far too much.

Imagine being so opposed to racial equality.
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Brought to you by the anti-snowflake, free speech, Galahad coalition who spend half their time moaning about those things, and the other half acting like snowflakes and trying to censor the free speech of others.

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The Karen energy in this tweet is far too much.

Imagine being so opposed to racial equality.

Sure
I can see your view on Martin.

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can we just stick to one topic of discussion rather than turn this into another snowball of "grrrr!!! BLM!!!!" ire? especially when the OP is about a gesture displayed by Kick It Out and No Room For Racism, and originally comes from Colin Kaepernick - independently of BLM?

Because the whole conversation is just muddled and nobody who's criticising the kneel seems to know who tf they're even criticising. Unless it's all anti-racist organisations, in which case... they're probably racist
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can we just stick to one topic of discussion rather than turn this into another snowball of "grrrr!!! BLM!!!!" ire? especially when the OP is about a gesture displayed by Kick It Out and No Room For Racism, and originally comes from Colin Kaepernick - independently of BLM?

Because the whole conversation is just muddled and nobody who's criticising the kneel seems to know who tf they're even criticising. Unless it's all anti-racist organisations, in which case... they're probably racist


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can we just stick to one topic of discussion rather than turn this into another snowball of "grrrr!!! BLM!!!!" ire? especially when the OP is about a gesture displayed by Kick It Out and No Room For Racism, and originally comes from Colin Kaepernick - independently of BLM?

Because the whole conversation is just muddled and nobody who's criticising the kneel seems to know who tf they're even criticising. Unless it's all anti-racist organisations, in which case... they're probably racist
That's fair - I said I wanted to hear voices which aren't BLM, and that's what those guys are
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As Shaun rightly points out, the 'kick it out' campaign was formed in 1993. However somehow it is now linked to BLM.

It seems like any anti -racism organisation can now be linked to BLM who many claim to be a violent organisation. Job done, the narrative has been changed.
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Millwall have always had a negative stereotype attached to them and I think it’s a great shame to those fans who are more respectful and were just happy to support their team from the stands again rather than a TV screen.
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Milwall supporters are a bunch of racist violent scum anyway. I don't even follow football but that club's reputation is just that gross.
My 3 friends who attended yesterdays game definitely ain't violent or racist.
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kick the ball or **** off you brain dead imbeciles
Simple as that eh?

With so many black players in the league if they all f&&k off then there wont be much of a league left but if you think thats a solution then good on you.
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Milwall supporters are a bunch of racist violent scum anyway. I don't even follow football but that club's reputation is just that gross.
I disagree with you a bit here Dezzy I’ll be honest. All football clubs have their fair share of fans who are pretty awful and unpleasant and Millwall admittedly in the past have shown to have a wider portion of fans that fall into this category than some other clubs. I agree where you say that Millwall have a poor reputation but it doesn’t represent the whole fan base.

There are fans of Millwall who support the club, that are very respectful and don’t share the same views as those booing before yesterday’s game and don't follow and agree with the hooliganism that’s attached to the club so I think it’s unfair to tarnish those fans with that brush. Those people just want to support their club and enjoy watching a game of football.
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Can you explain how the term 'brain dead' is applicable in this instance? ...
I'm going to presume you can't but have a go anyway.
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Can you explain how the term 'brain dead' is applicable in this instance? ...
I'm going to presume you can't but have a go anyway.
I wouldn't read into it. I think it's just how people who are raised from the nip on American reality TV and giphy speak.
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I disagree with you a bit here Dezzy I’ll be honest. All football clubs have their fair share of fans who are pretty awful and unpleasant and Millwall admittedly in the past have shown to have a wider portion of fans that fall into this category than some other clubs. I agree where you say that Millwall have a poor reputation but it doesn’t represent the whole fan base.

There are fans of Millwall who support the club, that are very respectful and don’t share the same views as those booing before yesterday’s game and don't follow and agree with the hooliganism that’s attached to the club so I think it’s unfair to tarnish those fans with that brush. Those people just want to support their club and enjoy watching a game of football.
I appreciate what you're trying to say but arent you shocked and stunned that such a small sample of Millwall fans still contained this element. To the best of my knowledge this didnt happen at any other ground. I think its difficult to defend Millwall fans over this instance.
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I appreciate what you're trying to say but arent you shocked and stunned that such a small sample of Millwall fans still contained this element. To the best of my knowledge this didnt happen at any other ground. I think its difficult to defend Millwall fans over this instance.
Oh yes definitely GiRTh, it’s such a disrespectful thing to do considering everything that has happened so far this year and it really does show that we are very far from kicking racism out of football at the moment, it was very disappointing to see those fans react this way yesterday. I do find it worrying that there is the possibility of this happening in other fixtures too judging by some comments I’ve seen from various posters on other sites where they believed the Millwall fans were right in what they did.

I’ve seen comments that it apparently happened in the West Ham game yesterday but I haven’t actually been able to find evidence of it happening so I don’t believe it to be true.

I just feel bad for the Millwall fans that disagreed with what happened yesterday since they will be tarnished with the same brush is all.
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One would hope some of the more progressive of their contingent get tickets soon and use the opportunity to put out a positive message and perhaps give a clap to the display, because right now it's simply a case of Millwall taking the dubious mantle back from the Burnley sadact who put the White Lives Matter banner over Manchester.

Fingers crossed, eh.
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Agree with both comments above. Its up to the other fans to say something. Before lockdown most clubs were quite good at rooting out this element from the stands, so the leagues and the clubs are going to have to get to work if they truly believe in the causes they're supporting.
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