[Denver]

Demi will know go by the pronouns They/Them

[Oliver_W]

Maybe she should change her name to Themi Lovato.

[Marsh.]

Sorry didn't they do this ages ago?

[Swan]

Yeah this was like a week ago

[LeatherTrumpet]

i have no idea who she is apart from something about fat shaming a cafe?

obviously, she is a woman and she cannot change facts

[Swan]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i have no idea who she is apart from something about fat shaming a cafe?

obviously, she is a woman and she cannot change facts

She was in some Disney stuff as a kid, now i think she's a model/singer.

I only heard about her during that fat shaming thing though. It was Ice Cream apparently, she claimed the store fat shamed her by selling 'diet' products.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i have no idea who she is apart from something about fat shaming a cafe?

obviously, she is a woman and she cannot change facts

Bang On Right
LT.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i have no idea who she is apart from something about fat shaming a cafe?

obviously, she is a woman and she cannot change facts

They're discussing their gender, not their sex.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

She's discussing her gender, not her sex.

Attention seeking more like

[Smithy]

Demi: my pronouns are they/them
Everyone in this thread: She

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I’ll never understand how or why people take issue with stuff like this

Like it doesn’t affect you in any way? touch grass

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Fetch The Bolt Cutters

I’ll never understand how or why people take issue with stuff like this

Like it doesn’t affect you in any way? touch grass

Fragile right wing snowflakes need something to cry about, it seems.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Attention seeking more like

And you bend to their will by making a song and dance. Demi stays winning?

[parmnion]

Why the need to come out..

I've put half a stone on since April, whoooopeeededoo.

[parmnion]

I got fat cheeks ffs.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

obviously, she is a woman and she cannot change facts

Yep

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Demi: my pronouns are they/them
Everyone in this thread: She

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Demi: my pronouns are they/them
Everyone in this thread: She

To be fair, some do it point fly but for some it’s just a lot to expect everyone to instantly remember a change.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, some do it point fly but for some it’s just a lot to expect everyone to instantly remember a change.

Also people see Demi and automatically still think "she" & "her" that's just a fact , but also what people need to remember is not all of them mind if you still refer to them as that as it's more fluid.

[bitontheslide]

I always think of prince in a scenario like this. One day he decided that he should be referred to as symbol, but the simple fact is, it's just not something you can change over night, if at all. One could argue that you are never described as you would choose yourself, because your own perception of who/what you are just doesnt match with whatever anyone else think of you

[Shaun]

This is nice and everything but Demi does have a bit of a history of doing stupid attention-seeking things, so I understand why some would be sceptical / just writing this off as a trend/fad.

It's unfortunate that the two biggest profile NBs are Demi and Sam Smith because the public perception of both is... pretty bad. Not that that excuses the willful trolling in here.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Why the need to come out..

I've put half a stone on since April, whoooopeeededoo.

In that case you should be "they" because you're as big as two people

But nah, she "came out" so music reviewers tabloid articles use the "correct" pronouns, I guess...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Shaun

This is nice and everything but Demi does have a bit of a history of doing stupid attention-seeking things, so I understand why some would be sceptical / just writing this off as a trend/fad.

It's unfortunate that the two biggest profile NBs are Demi and Sam Smith because the public perception of both is... pretty bad. Not that that excuses the willful trolling in here.

The unfortunate reality is that when anything starts to become more mainstream, there are some people who will join the “trend” just to be part of the scene. I know that’s a taboo line of thought because it can lead to doubting people who are genuine but well... it simply is the case. My daughter came out as gay about a year ago, no one else in her social circle was, she was obviously nervous about telling people but decided to do so. She has a girlfriend who is also quite obviously genuinely gay. The kids were all, surprisingly for me (as it would NOT have been like this when I was at school) totally unphased by this and she’s really encountered zero negativity...

...the strange part is that the rest of the girls in the class started pairing off . There’s 14 girls in the class and there are now only FOUR of them who are not in a same-sex couple . It’s all harmless of course and I’m sure there are a couple of others who may well be gay or bi, but we’ve had to explain to her that it’s unlikely that 80% of the girls in her class are actually gay!

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, some do it point fly but for some it’s just a lot to expect everyone to instantly remember a change.

It’s a lot to expect everyone to remember a change when it’s literally the topic of the thread?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Jake.

It’s a lot to expect everyone to remember a change when it’s literally the topic of the thread?

When prince decided he wanted to be known as a "squiggle" everyone ignored that and called him Prince

and they still do