[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Jake.

It’s a lot to expect everyone to remember a change when it’s literally the topic of the thread?

People type a stream of consciousness and the word that comes out comes out. You could argue that people should take the time to proof-read their posts and make sure to change things like a pronoun (however, realistically most people don’t double check a forum post before they hit send) but it’s a lot to expect that people are in tight control of conversational language. It takes time. It’s like if a friend you’ve known for years by a nickname declares that they hate it - of course you stop consciously using it, but occasionally it’s going to slip out.

I did also say that obviously some people do it pointedly and by all means call that out. But a policy of blanket anger and disappointment at “incorrect pronouns” is really not the way.

[Jake.]

Yeah I can’t see it being done out of anything other than intention by most people.
It’s Demi Lovato, it’s not like they’re usually a hot topic on the forum and people are “slipping up”.

The edit function is there, I can’t see that it’s been used by those who have referred to Demi as she/her?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Yeah I can’t see it being done out of anything other than intention by most people.
It’s Demi Lovato, it’s not like they’re usually a hot topic on the forum and people are “slipping up”.

The edit function is there, I can’t see that it’s been used by those who have referred to Demi as she/her?

where is it stated that people should be called as they wish to? Plenty people on this forum have been described using terms they most certainly don't like but nothing ever happens about that

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

where is it stated that people should be called as they wish to? Plenty people on this forum have been described using terms they most certainly don't like but nothing ever happens about that

No-one "has" to use preferred pronouns, but it's seen as polite.

When women identify as transmen or as nonbinary, there seems to be a co-morbidity with a history of sexual abuse, which Demi Lovato has been subject to at least twice ... Some kind of coping mechanism, perhaps? Seems to mostly apply to females, as it doesn't seem to be the case with men who identit as transwomen or as nonbinary.

[UserSince2005]

The overdose mess up the head

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

where is it stated that people should be called as they wish to? Plenty people on this forum have been described using terms they most certainly don't like but nothing ever happens about that

Comparing pronouns to bigoted comments being labelled as bigoted?

Yeah, ok.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

where is it stated that people should be called as they wish to? Plenty people on this forum have been described using terms they most certainly don't like but nothing ever happens about that

It’s just a thing of respect really isn’t it

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Comparing pronouns to bigoted comments being labelled as bigoted?

Yeah, ok.

Or this.

[LeatherTrumpet]

So do the DM have to now write "Demi Levato was in Paris Friday for a charity gig, them wore a lovely over the shoulder number from Prada and then they visited a lovely chique cafe on the banks of the Seine. Them will be in Paris for 2 nights and then them will be on the first flight back to LA"?

I cant see this catching on somehow

[Tom4784]

It's the Daily Mail, so that level of illiteracy would be expected.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's the Daily Mail, so that level of illiteracy would be expected.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So do the DM have to now write "Demi Levato was in Paris Friday for a charity gig, them wore a lovely over the shoulder number from Prada and then they visited a lovely chique cafe on the banks of the Seine. Them will be in Paris for 2 nights and then them will be on the first flight back to LA"?

I cant see this catching on somehow

Replacing the word "they" with "them" says more about your grasp of English than it does Demi Lovato?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Replacing the word "they" with "them" says more about your grasp of English than it does Demi Lovato?

i think my point was made and you seem to have grasped it despite the acerbic comment

[Toy Soldier]

That would be “Her wore a lovely over the shoulder number” so you just did a bad job of changing the pronouns LT. All of those would be “they” and it reads fine on that basis; albeit with the issue that it’s harder to distinguish singular from plural if a lot of people are using the singular “they”.

It isn’t incorrect English, however.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That would be “Her wore a lovely over the shoulder number” so you just did a bad job of changing the pronouns LT. All of those would be “they” and it reads fine on that basis; albeit with the issue that it’s harder to distinguish singular from plural if a lot of people are using the singular “they”.

It isn’t incorrect English, however.

it becomes undefined which is the basis of them doing it.

It's perfectly typical grammar to use when you don't know the sex of who you are referring to, going back decades

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think my point was made and you seem to have grasped it despite the acerbic comment

You haven't made any point. You've tried to make out the pronouns of they/them won't allow actual sentences to be made in place of she/her by using bad English.
That's a 'you' issue.