[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Denver

Also using Scottish and Irish heritage is a very poor example to back your argument up, neither is a continent with Iver 50 countries hundreds of traditions, religions, cultures, tribes ect and to just generalise Africa as black is a very bad thing to do

ok, call it europe, asia or whatever other continent you wish to pick

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You want me to provide proof but we're supposed to take your word for it?

Yu can do the research your self

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

But not the black community who currently live in America and i have seen so many posts and videos of people who know which African country they came from but live in America who are totally against the term

So.... there are, in fact, black Americans who don't use the term African American to describe themselves.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

Yu can do the research your self

Why should I? You created the thread. If you want the debate, bring the tools.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Denver

But not the black community who currently live in America and i have seen so many posts and videos of people who know which African country they came from but live in America who are totally against the term

They need to take it up with those who have decided that is the way to go? i.e other people in the black community

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So.... there are, in fact, black Americans who don't use the term African American to describe themselves.

Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they are not called it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they are not called it

It doesn't mean they are either.

[Denver]

African Americans and Africans do not see eye to eye at all

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Denver

African Americans and Africans do not see eye to eye at all

Okay, thats not anyones problem but theirs, I am sure they don’t want white folk sticking their noses in

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Denver

African Americans and Africans do not see eye to eye at all

so what?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

African Americans and Africans do not see eye to eye at all

You have to be specific. You're not allowed to just say "Africans", which country specifically? Not all Africans are black, Denver.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wait, I thought your issue was with people assuming that all black people in America are "African American" but your issue is with African Americans calling themselves African American?

That’s exactly what I thought. If it’s the latter then I have to agree with Livia.

[bitontheslide]

all the people in 2 continents don't agree, what a shocker

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You have to be specific. You're not allowed to just say "Africans", which country specifically? Not all Africans are black, Denver.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdPn2eAa/
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdPneduS/


Just a few videos on the subject will post more later

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Denver

You name one black American that has never been referred to African American?

Bill Brown from Duluth

age 67 and originally from St Kitts

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdPn2eAa/
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdPneduS/


Just a few videos on the subject will post more later

I find it amusing that you take issue with generalisations of whole countries and continents, but you do so based on a selection of tik tok videos.

I'll leave you to your thread.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Bill Brown from Duluth

age 67 and originally from St Kitts

Do they know Lester Nygaard?

[Ammi]

…in fairness to Denver and doing a little Google…it does seem to be a topic that has many articles written about it…(…I’ll post a couple of links but there are quite a few…)…and a discussion that does seem to have some activity or has had…

https://fordhamobserver.com/30133/op...ican-american/

https://newafricanmagazine.com/3168/

…anyway, I don’t have any thoughts on it atm but there does seem to be reasoning and discussions regarding it…

[Toy Soldier]

I don’t mean to be flippant but do you have any IDEA of the constant stream of absolute **** my daughter parrots from TikTok as “facts”?

They range from “poorly conceptualised” to “flawed” and right through to “utterly ludicrous to the point of being funny”.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Denver

African Americans and Africans do not see eye to eye at all

what a ridiculous generalisation

[smudgie]

African American surely means someone whose roots are from the Continent of Africa.
As to not knowing which precise country they originate from makes no different, they are from the continent.
Africans were the natives of the country of Africa, and as such were only ever the black people.
White people born in Africa would be classed as whatever country they were born in.
Whites from South Africa would be South African or Afrikaners.
I have many cousins born in South Africa who would not consider themselves as African, on the other hand the younger generation wonder why they can’t be called African.

[Cherie]

Who do you think should be sorting this out Denver?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Denver

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdPn2eAa/
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdPneduS/


Just a few videos on the subject will post more later

Gosh the lady in video 2 quickly gained an American accent if she arrived in 2017

[Niamh.]

People claiming ro be Irish American is a huge thing Adam

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People claiming ro be Irish American is a huge thing Adam

…as is Italian American…(…just to name two…)…