[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by glib

So has Prince Andrew but he was still driving around on public roads, snapped by the paps

What’s someone going to do him, throw a coronation chicken at him?

Prince Andrew isn't the future Kings son and brother though and has never really been liked by the public in the way Harry was. Nutters would have a lot more to gain by targeting Harry.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by glib

Why’s he at risk in the U.K.?

I didn't say he's at huge risk in the UK (any high profile figure is always at some risk) - I said he's at MORE risk in the UK than he is in the US, because in the UK the Royals would be the ultimate target, whereas in the US he's not even on par with a big current Hollywood A-lister, and there will be plenty of those at the Superbowl. They'd be more excited if they saw Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans sat together than they would to see "That British Prince".

[jet]

Originally Posted by glib

Exactly sometimes feel a bit censorshipy

A 'bit' is an understatement.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Its a load of bollocks....its a feeble excuse to get out of visiting. Meghan simply does not want to come...and Harry finds himself in that awkward position of having to find an 'excuse' everytime they get an invite for one thing or another...
He has finally found one he can use time and time again....he is in more vulnerable where he lives now...its a joke.

Nail on the head Rusti.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jet

A 'bit' is an understatement.

It isn't actually though is it. I mean, this stuff is not even vaguely important.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

I was forgetting that there wasn't any terrorists or crazy gun toters in the US. Why the Royals get even higher security when they go there is just ridiculous.

A Royal on a State visit is far more of a target than a celebrity who lives in California. Many gun toting americans will walk past Harry on the street and not take any notice but the pomp and circumstance around a Royal visit will bring out the radicals. When Harry goes to the superbowl now its no more of a big deal to them as any two bit celeb

[Cherie]

If he goes to the memorial he will be protected by the mere fact he is there with the Queen, Charles and Will

[bitontheslide]

The majority of royals have no security protection at all. I don't think its unreasonable to provide security for high profile royals, and harry and family clearly fit into this category.

What people are not understanding is that Harry and family are no longer resident in the uk and there is much more involved in royal protection than having them accompanied by a couple of armed bruisers. The vast majority of protection now involves constant monitoring of intelligence etc. That is where the work is. So, it's just not feasible to provide that protection for a family that doesn't even live in the country. They are just not in the royal orbit now, and to be quite blunt, that was their express choice

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't say he's at huge risk in the UK (any high profile figure is always at some risk) - I said he's at MORE risk in the UK than he is in the US, because in the UK the Royals would be the ultimate target, whereas in the US he's not even on par with a big current Hollywood A-lister, and there will be plenty of those at the Superbowl. They'd be more excited if they saw Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans sat together than they would to see "That British Prince".

A gun toting nutter would get himself far more attention by shooting the future King of the UK's son than he would Chris Evans, don't you think?
Every day in the USA, on average 316 people are shot every day. How many in the UK? How many with high royal protection, which he would have at a Royal event? NONE. EVER.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by arista

Thank god! It was just too much risk with all the royalist crazies out there.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If he goes to the memorial he will be protected by the mere fact he is there with the Queen, Charles and Will

Exactly...just like when he came here for Diana's memorial. From what I can gather his car was chased by media which has prompted him to demand higher security.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

A Royal on a State visit is far more of a target than a celebrity who lives in California. Many gun toting americans will walk past Harry on the street and not take any notice but the pomp and circumstance around a Royal visit will bring out the radicals. When Harry goes to the superbowl now its no more of a big deal to them as any two bit celeb

His visit to the Superbowl was no different from him going to Wembley to watch the Rugby. He would have had security guards with him at both. Harry could walk through the streets anywhere and people would walk past him and not bat an eyelid....he is at more risk of assassination in America simply because more people carry guns. There are many Royalists in America that will not like what he and his wife have done and its a far bigger country....
At the end of the day it is a convenient excuse for his beloved Meghan...

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Exactly...just like when he came here for Diana's memorial. From what I can gather his car was chased by media which has prompted him to demand higher security.

There are doubts about that. It has been reported that nobody has seen any footage or photos of his car being chased at all, or even of him leaving the venue or getting into the car, which is odd if there were media around.

[Kizzy]

I see it as him not wanting the media circus focused on him and his wife.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I see it as him not wanting the media circus focused on him and his wife.

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

[glib]

Originally Posted by jet

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Thank god! It was just too much risk with all the royalist crazies out there.

Last time I saw bunting in the street was Harry's wedding.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by jet

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

yep, spot-on as ever Jet

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jet

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

I'd say their biggest supporters were smart enough to grasp what they meant by seeking privacy was getting away from the invasive British press not about going to live a reclusive life never to be heard from again.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I'd say their biggest supporters were smart enough to grasp what they meant by seeking privacy was getting away from the invasive British press not about going to live a reclusive life never to be heard from again.

Who here has ever said them wanting privacy meant they wanted to live a reclusive life never to be heard of again? Nobody. That is a silly, totally unrealistic invention.
There is a huge difference between wanting normal privacy and desperate attention seeking antics which ensures the repeated coverage they crave in that invasive British press....

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jet

Who here has ever said them wanting privacy meant they wanted to live a reclusive life never to be heard of again? Nobody. That is a silly, totally unrealistic invention.
There is a huge difference between wanting normal privacy and desperate attention seeking antics which ensures the repeated coverage they crave in that invasive British press....

They have normal privacy. What do you know about their personal lives? nothing because now they are in control of what they put out to the press, which was the whole point.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

Well once again it's a case of damned if you do damned if you don't. If he had gone it would be seen as him attention grabbing , so whatever :/ .

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

They have normal privacy. What do you know about their personal lives?

Too much, cos they tell us, don't they? We know they like to wash their dirty linen in public, which isn’t PRIVATE, is it? We know they are estranged from their respective families. Who they are currently suing.
We know that if there is a bandwagon to jump on they’ll be there to appease their craving to be noticed.
We know they are whiners because we’ve heard them, loud and clear.
Their neighbours say they rarely see them; occasionally Harry will be seen out on his electric bike. They aren’t seen out together. Harry goes to some stuff on his own. They don’t have visitors.
When this was reported recently in the press, hey presto, a few days later Harry and Meghan were photographed out at a restaurant with Eugenie, by a news agency, sitting right there in full view at the window. Meghan’s face was nearly cracking with all the false hilarity she was putting on and Harry looked tense and glum, apparently.
So there you go.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jet

Too much, cos they tell us, don't they? We know they like to wash their dirty linen in public, which isn’t PRIVATE, is it? We know they are estranged from their respective families. Who they are currently suing.
We know that if there is a bandwagon to jump on they’ll be there to appease their craving to be noticed.
We know they are whiners because we’ve heard them, loud and clear.
Their neighbours say they rarely see them; occasionally Harry will be seen out on his electric bike. They aren’t seen out together. Harry goes to some stuff on his own. They don’t have visitors.
When this was reported recently in the press, hey presto, a few days later Harry and Meghan were photographed out at a restaurant with Eugenie, by a news agency, sitting right there in full view at the window. Meghan’s face was nearly cracking with all the false hilarity she was putting on and Harry looked tense and glum, apparently.
So there you go.

Sounds quite elusive to me almost... private.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well once again it's a case of damned if you do damned if you don't. If he had gone it would be seen as him attention grabbing , so whatever :/ .

If he had gone where? Are you referring to Prince Philips memorial service which hasn't been held yet?
If so, then it absolutely would not be seen as attention grabbing, it would be seen as the right thing to do. Nobody said he was attention grabbing when he attended his grandfathers funeral, or the unveiling of Diana's statue.
Letting down his grandmother by refusing to attend because of security issues when he knows darn well he will have the security the rest of them will have, just like he did on his previous 2 visits is disgusting. How low can he go?