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Ammi · 31-10-2023, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Atake25

Exactly all the housemates know the public love Yinrun in the same manner. This may have had a impact on how people treat her in the house , Olivia for example was very quick to apologise after shouting at her over the washing up , it might be genuine or she might have had an “oh crap” moment I just shouted at the most popular housemate . Harry might have been more brave defending her for the same reason

…yeah, it’s also something I’ve been thinking about as well in terms of how the highlights sometimes seem to be manipulated from what live feed viewers are watching…

…the concept of the show from Wiki…

‘ the show follows the format of other national editions, in which a group of contestants, known as "housemates", live together in a specially constructed house that is isolated from the outside world.’

….housemates being able to hear boos and gage popularity and less popularity etc is not ‘isolated from the outside world’…it can completely manipulate and change dynamics as a direct influence…

Ammi · 31-10-2023, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Farida was evicted over Kerry, so all the boos and chanting meant nothing. Olivia has probably gone over Kerry today. People read way to much into a few people chanting in the crowd. Bear in mind, there is probably a maximum of 200 people in the crowd and they received over 1 million votes

…but it doesn’t matter what the ratio of boos there would be in that it’s something that the housemates are registering in there thoughts…big boos/little boos/no boos/cheers etc and the chants as well…good chants/bad chants…it’s all gaging outside opinions…

Garfie · 31-10-2023, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

‘ the show follows the format of other national editions, in which a group of contestants, known as "housemates", live together in a specially constructed house that is isolated from the outside world.’

….housemates being able to hear boos and gage popularity and less popularity etc is not ‘isolated from the outside world’…it can completely manipulate and change dynamics as a direct influence…

The thing is though, Ammi, those words are ambiguous enough to enable producers to manipulate them as they wish. For instance, they could say that ‘isolated from the outside world’ actually means that housemates can have no contact with family, friends, their work and their normal, everyday lives. They could claim it means physically isolated. They could say that it’s like a prison which isolates inmates from the outside world, yet they still have some awareness of what is going on.

Ammi · 31-10-2023, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Garfie

The thing is though, Ammi, those words are ambiguous enough to enable producers to manipulate them as they wish. For instance, they could say that ‘isolated from the outside world’ actually means that housemates can have no contact with family, friends, their work and their normal, everyday lives. They could claim it means physically isolated. They could say that it’s like a prison which isolates inmates from the outside world, yet they still have some awareness of what is going on.

…yeah for sure, I understand that, Garfie….and we all have our own interpretations of these things that it doesn’t necessarily indicate an ‘all or nothing’ type thing…I guess though for me, it’s …(…and always has been…)…a house dynamics of total strangers who may have nothing in common and never intertwine in the outside world and how connections build…(…and conflicts as well….)…and then the tasks all adding to those things, like coping with crying babies for instance…it’s not about messing with their heads in terms of fear factor adding …with social media platforms especially, they’ll face that soon enough…but manipulating it into the house also is just not great I personally don’t think….and in the past has possibly contributed and factored into ‘walkers’ being more a thing in some seasons…

Garfie · 31-10-2023, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…is there any other reality show similar who has an audience of fans/no fans booing as contestants leave, I’m not sure there is…I can’t think anyway…

Maybe not another reality show, but footballers have to tolerate 90 mins a week of boos and the most horrendous and foul of chants imaginable, which make the response of the BB crowd seem pretty mild.

I have to come back to the fact that housemates know when they put themselves in the BB house, that there is every possibility that they could be unpopular and be on the receiving end of boos and negative comments. They know today’s world, so make an informed choice. If they’re not prepared to accept that possibility, they should not sign up for BB. If they choose to go ahead, then part of me feels that they have to tolerate and accept these things.

Garfie · 31-10-2023, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah for sure, I understand that, Garfie….and we all have our own interpretations of these things that it doesn’t necessarily indicate an ‘all or nothing’ type thing…I guess though for me, it’s …(…and always has been…)…a house dynamics of total strangers who may have nothing in common and never intertwine in the outside world and how connections build…(…and conflicts as well….)…and then the tasks all adding to those things, like coping with crying babies for instance…it’s not about messing with their heads in terms of fear factor adding …with social media platforms especially, they’ll face that soon enough…but manipulating it into the house also is just not great I personally don’t think….and in the past has possibly contributed and factored into ‘walkers’ being more a thing in some seasons…

Yes, you’ve interpreted the words in their purest form, but producers will interpret or manipulate them to generate the most entertainment and viewing figures.

Ammi · 31-10-2023, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Garfie

Maybe not another reality show, but footballers have to tolerate 90 mins a week of boos and the most horrendous and foul of chants imaginable, which make the response of the BB crowd seem pretty mild.

I have to come back to the fact that housemates know when they put themselves in the BB house, that there is every possibility that they could be unpopular and be on the receiving end of boos and negative comments. They know today’s world, so make an informed choice. If they’re not prepared to accept that possibility, they should not sign up for BB. If they choose to go ahead, then part of me feels that they have to tolerate and accept these things.

…well, it’s been devised so that they have to hear and experience the boos while their stay in the house is ongoing as well …BB did look at it, I think ….in that there was talk of a ‘no boo/chant’ crowd but I could never see how that could be possible…anyway, it is what it is and isn’t going to change…so…

MTVN · 31-10-2023, 09:43 AM

Well that is true tbf that Kerry couldn't have done that secret task, not sure Jenkin would fit through the hatch either

I did think they should have decided the possessed housemate through a task which everyone had the same chance of winning but it worked out for me so I don't care so much

Ammi · 31-10-2023, 09:44 AM

…and Dylan as well would be disadvantaged just because of the speed thing in being able to get to the DR quickly/first…

bitontheslide · 31-10-2023, 09:45 AM

Kerry is an absolutely obnoxious house mate. You live and die by the sword

Ammi · 31-10-2023, 09:50 AM

…well, Halloween isn’t over yet and evil BB could be lurking in the shadows and not yet finished with their wickedness….if they reveal to the house how the choices were made etc…Trish and/or Noky might yet also ‘die’ in the Friday eviction…

LeatherTrumpet · 31-10-2023, 09:51 AM

BB:"Hi Trish and Noky - who are you most jealous of in the house?"

Trish and Noky: "Olivia"

BB: "Give me 2 other names that you think if you nominate you will get the least blowback"

Trish and Noky: "Kerry and Dylan for obvious reason"

BB: "Ta"

Garfie · 31-10-2023, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Well that is true tbf that Kerry couldn't have done that secret task, not sure Jenkin would fit through the hatch either

I did think they should have decided the possessed housemate through a task which everyone had the same chance of winning but it worked out for me so I don't care so much

Yes, I agree, but I do think they would have probably used an alternative entrance to the diary room had it been a housemate who would have had difficulty with the tunnel entrance.

GoldHeart · 31-10-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Garfie

Yes, I agree, but I do think they would have probably used an alternative entrance to the diary room had it been a housemate who would have had difficulty with the tunnel entrance.

Yeah they would have still found a way for Kerry to be possessed if she went to the Dr first .

Abra · 31-10-2023, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

How many times can they influence the opinions of other hms by allowing them to hear chants from the outside!

How many times can they make it quickest to the diary room, then if by some miracle kerry makes it there first, they then go and make it a get out of bed at 4.30 without anyone hearing you reversing your buggy. Then, then crawl on your hands and knees through a ten foot tunnel that's barely wide enough to accommodate Trishs booty.

And now comes the bad mouthing panel on the afrershitshow to nail the final nail in her coffin.

What a load of fixed bollocks.

The crowd chants have been part of Big Brother for many years, that's not going to change.

And in regards to if Kerry had gone to the diary room, I'm sure they would have already made a separate plan for a secret task for Kerry to accommodate her needs in that eventuality.

Not everything requires a tin-foil hat.

parmnion · 31-10-2023, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Abra

The crowd chants have been part of Big Brother for many years, that's not going to change.

And in regards to if Kerry had gone to the diary room, I'm sure they would have already made a separate plan for a secret task for Kerry to accommodate her needs in that eventuality.

Not everything requires a tin-foil hat.

Yes you are probably correct. If Kerry had got to the diary room 1st.

It would probably have been a straight eviction there and then.

GoldHeart · 31-10-2023, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes you are probably correct. If Kerry had got to the diary room 1st.

It would probably have been a straight eviction there and then.

No it wouldn't have .

Niamh. · 31-10-2023, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

BB:"Hi Trish and Noky - who are you most jealous of in the house?"

Trish and Noky: "Olivia"

BB: "Give me 2 other names that you think if you nominate you will get the least blowback"

Trish and Noky: "Kerry and Dylan for obvious reason"

BB: "Ta"

Noky didn't pick Olivia though, she suggested they each chose one and then the last one together. She couldn't really go back on that just because Trish picked Olivia

bitontheslide · 31-10-2023, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Noky didn't pick Olivia though, she suggested they each chose one and then the last one together. She couldn't really go back on that just because Trish picked Olivia

she didnt try very hard to change Trish's mind