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frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 12:44 AM

tonight he said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "aMERIcan!"

WHAT IF:

ISAAC had said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "IRANIAN"

people would be setting themselves on fire with outrage.
why is it ok to be a BIGOT to americans?
its a big country.
not everyone in it is a moron
just like everyone from his country isnt a terrorist.

Vicky.

31-07-2009, 12:46 AM

According to some on here, it is perfectly fine to hate someone just because they are american :rolleyes:

It is EXACTLY the same as saying they hate someone because they are indian/iranian/irish whatever.

Though apprently it is acceptable :shrug:

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 12:51 AM

im sick of it being ok.
it hurts my feelings :bawling:

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 12:54 AM

Yes it was prejudiced. I was actually puzzled by it, because it seemed so irrelevant at the time!

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 12:58 AM

yeah! :thumbs:

i mean.. i know he was hurt......so i kind of understand him saying it..
i think what upsets me is that it is pretty much accepted by the general public to talk like that.

Narc

31-07-2009, 12:59 AM

I just think it's more to do with him being such an arrogant jackass, which is the stereotypical view a lot of people have towards Americans, he IS bringing it on himself; but I agree, it'd be totally different if somebody else said something about Siavash's nationality... Political correctness doesn't strecth as far as the US I guess...

ClaretandBlue

31-07-2009, 01:01 AM

Being American, I was a bit offended when he said that, but it was only for a moment. What he's going through is certainly rough, and I feel bad for the guy. I don't honestly think he meant it how it came across, I think he was just upset and it came out. It happens, I'm sure I've done the same thing with French people. I don't really hate the French, but sometimes it's an easy target.

Regardless, I'm still a Siavash fan.

fallenkal

31-07-2009, 01:06 AM

I'm American.

Coming to these forums makes me feel like a Black guy walking into a KKK meeting sometimes with the crazy things people say about us.

As far as what Siavash said, he could have some prejudice attitudes or he could just be picking reasons not to like Isaac. I couldn't blame him.

RobertaH

31-07-2009, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
tonight he said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "aMERIcan!"

WHAT IF:

ISAAC had said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "IRANIAN"

people would be setting themselves on fire with outrage.
why is it ok to be a BIGOT to americans?
its a big country.
not everyone in it is a moron
just like everyone from his country isnt a terrorist.

Well he is probably struggling to call that idiot anything nice at the moment so American was the best he could do at the time...I have quite a fe choice words that I could call Noirins Ex or not Ex or future money spinning "friend"..they will make millions together.

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 01:06 AM

Americans by definition are made up of people from all over the world so being an 'american' is considered more of a mentality or way of thinking rather than a race or nationality. i guess that's why people don't think of it as racism to make those comments. also when you make such statements to MINORITIES or the OPPRESSED then it's not acceptable.

fallenkal

31-07-2009, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by DanDa1
Americans by definition are made up of people from all over the world so being an 'american' is considered more of a mentality or way of thinking rather than a race or nationality. i guess that's why people don't think of it as racism to make those comments. also when you make such statements to MINORITIES or the OPPRESSED then it's not acceptable.

Couldn't you technically call an American in England a minority?

ClaretandBlue

31-07-2009, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by fallenkal
I'm American.

:xyxwave: We should put little flags in our signature so we can identify each other.. maybe little Obama bobble-heads. :bigsmile:

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 01:11 AM

yes very true! but you heard the guy 'its the isaac and noirin show' he's certainly not feeling that way.

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by DanDa1
Americans by definition are made up of people from all over the world so being an 'american' is considered more of a mentality or way of thinking rather than a race or nationality. i guess that's why people don't think of it as racism to make those comments. also when you make such statements to MINORITIES or the OPPRESSED then it's not acceptable.

being american isnt actually a mentality.. it IS technically a nationality.
thats why it says "nationality: american" on my passport.

and he is the only american in the house.
that is technically a minority.

ClaretandBlue

31-07-2009, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by DanDa1
yes very true! but you heard the guy 'its the isaac and noirin show' he's certainly not feeling that way.

I can already tell Isaac is that conceited wannabe tough guy. He's also certainly not your typical American, so don't form any opinions based on him. I think I read he was on probation for robbery at some point.. And he's from Cleveland.. Which I don't even know how to translate that to England.. Maybe like Liverpool with a little Hull mixed in. No offense there, scousers.. ;)

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by fallenkal
I'm American.

Coming to these forums makes me feel like a Black guy walking into a KKK meeting sometimes with the crazy things people say about us.

As far as what Siavash said, he could have some prejudice attitudes or he could just be picking reasons not to like Isaac. I couldn't blame him.

omgee that has cracked me up something royal. :joker:

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
Originally posted by DanDa1
Americans by definition are made up of people from all over the world so being an 'american' is considered more of a mentality or way of thinking rather than a race or nationality. i guess that's why people don't think of it as racism to make those comments. also when you make such statements to MINORITIES or the OPPRESSED then it's not acceptable.

being american isnt actually a mentality.. it IS technically a nationality.
thats why it says "nationality: american" on my passport.

and he is the only american in the house.
that is technically a minority.

i know it's a nationality but the broad view of americans is not restricted to one colour or ancestry, that's why i mentioned the whole mentality thing as americans are considered a more diverse group of people than say irish,iranian etc. that's not to say i've got anything against americans i actually think it's a good thing that so many different races actually became more tolerated and accepted over there. so in some sense the u.s. is more advanced than some countries.

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 01:35 AM

Isaac is just a d**k, nothing to do with where he comes from.

Shasown

31-07-2009, 01:35 AM

With all due respect to our colonial cousins, America is not a country its a land mass, they are citizens of the United States of America, there are or there were a few others countries within North and South America last time I looked at an atlas.

I would be rather grateful if said US citizens paid for the tea on my great ancestor's ships, including interest. your rather cruel joke of making Boston Harbour one large pot of tea sent my family into destitution.

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 01:38 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Shasown
With all due respect to our colonial cousins, America is not a country its a land mass, they are citizens of the United States of America, there are or there were a few others countries within North and South America last time I looked at an atlas.

I would be rather grateful if said US citizens paid for the tea on my great ancestor's ships, including interest. your rather cruel joke of making Boston Harbour one large pot of tea sent my family into destitution. [/quote

would you accept some PG tips?

Shasown

31-07-2009, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
would you accept some PG tips?

Given the estimated weight of tea to have been at the time in the region of 90,000 pounds. yes of course I will

Dont forget the interest.( call it 235 years worth)

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by frozencharlotte
would you accept some PG tips?

Given the estimated weight of tea to have been at the time in the region of 90,000 pounds. yes of course I will

Dont forget the interest.( call it 235 years worth)

crap.. ive only got one box :sad:

fallenkal

31-07-2009, 01:50 AM

No use crying over spilled tea.

Shasown

31-07-2009, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
cr*p.. ive only got one box :sad:

Well we have waited 200+years whats a few more days?

Patrick

31-07-2009, 01:54 AM

Most americans are self centred pricks though...MOST Not all

They think because most celebs come from there
They own alot of Shitty TV Shows
Bigger Cities
And are a Big Country

That there better than everyone else...

Vicky.

31-07-2009, 01:55 AM

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
[quote]Originally posted by Shasown
With all due respect to our colonial cousins, America is not a country its a land mass, they are citizens of the United States of America, there are or there were a few others countries within North and South America last time I looked at an atlas.

I would be rather grateful if said US citizens paid for the tea on my great ancestor's ships, including interest. your rather cruel joke of making Boston Harbour one large pot of tea sent my family into destitution. [/quote

would you accept some PG tips?

Give us our language back!

fallenkal

31-07-2009, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Most americans are self centred pricks though...MOST Not all

They think because most celebs come from there
They own alot of Shitty TV Shows
Bigger Cities
And are a Big Country

That there better than everyone else...

We own a lot of great TV shows too. A lot of which seem to trickle down to air over in the UK and seem to be quite popular too :tongue:

I'm guessing you haven't met a lot of us.

SoFarSoGood282

31-07-2009, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
tonight he said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "aMERIcan!"

WHAT IF:

ISAAC had said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "IRANIAN"

people would be setting themselves on fire with outrage.
why is it ok to be a BIGOT to americans?
its a big country.
not everyone in it is a moron
just like everyone from his country isnt a terrorist.

He's not being prejudiced..... some people are just too sensitive!! But no need to worry, I'm sure Gavin (one of our fellow members) will be writing to Ofcom with a complaint!!

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Most americans are self centred pricks though...MOST Not all

They think because most celebs come from there
They own alot of Shitty TV Shows
Bigger Cities
And are a Big Country

That there better than everyone else...

not sure they think they are better than everyone else..
more likely they arent really that aware of anyone else..
and i dont mean that in a bad way.

its partly the fault of the geography.
its a huge, very isolated and totally self contained country.
most people have never left.
most people have never met anyone from another country.
nearly all of the tv programming is american.

america is kind of like an only child,
if it seems self-centered its only because it is self contained.
and it cant help it.

why are other countries so concerned with american media?
is that americas fault?

frozencharlotte

31-07-2009, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by SoFarSoGood282
Originally posted by frozencharlotte
tonight he said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "aMERIcan!"

WHAT IF:

ISAAC had said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "IRANIAN"

people would be setting themselves on fire with outrage.
why is it ok to be a BIGOT to americans?
its a big country.
not everyone in it is a moron
just like everyone from his country isnt a terrorist.

He's not being prejudiced..... some people are just too sensitive!! But no need to worry, I'm sure Gavin (one of our fellow members) will be writing to Ofcom with a complaint!!

i agree that some people are too sensitive..
and i dont personally think siavash hates americans...
remember how much he loved cairon?
i was just raising the issue of the seemingly double standard.
it seems america is the only country it is totally acceptable to discriminate against
openly.

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 02:30 AM

ever since WWII america set itself up as the authority over the the rest of the world. even now no other country can make any sort of independent decision without america trying to give their opinion or get involved. its this behavior that gives the impression that america thinks they're better than the rest.

fallenkal

31-07-2009, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by DanDa1
ever since WWII america set itself up as the authority over the the rest of the world. even now no other country can make any sort of independent decision without america trying to give their opinion or get involved. its this behavior that gives the impression that america thinks they're better than the rest.

Sounds like you just have a problem with the government. I don't know if you noticed... so do a lot of us citizens.

rebelmaz

31-07-2009, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by frozencharlotte
Originally posted by SoFarSoGood282
Originally posted by frozencharlotte
tonight he said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "aMERIcan!"

WHAT IF:

ISAAC had said "im not going to sit in here and talk to some "IRANIAN"

people would be setting themselves on fire with outrage.
why is it ok to be a BIGOT to americans?
its a big country.
not everyone in it is a moron
just like everyone from his country isnt a terrorist.

He's not being prejudiced..... some people are just too sensitive!! But no need to worry, I'm sure Gavin (one of our fellow members) will be writing to Ofcom with a complaint!!

i agree that some people are too sensitive..
and i dont personally think siavash hates americans...
remember how much he loved cairon?
i was just raising the issue of the seemingly double standard.
it seems america is the only country it is totally acceptable to discriminate against
openly.

I agree FC

Shasown

31-07-2009, 02:46 AM

Its a great pity the way people stereotype the average US citizen to what they see on TV or the tourists they meet, or better still assume they are the same as their political masters. You should remember that they are cousins of ours both historically and genetically.

Remember thats a double edged sword, just think how they must view us after seeing the likes of Brown or Mandelson.

If only people would take out the time to try and understand that all people of the world are linked to us through the universal conscience. Our brothers in spirit.

Saying that it's still good fun extracting the urine out of the *******.

DanDa1

31-07-2009, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by DanDa1
ever since WWII america set itself up as the authority over the the rest of the world. even now no other country can make any sort of independent decision without america trying to give their opinion or get involved. its this behavior that gives the impression that america thinks they're better than the rest.

Sounds like you just have a problem with the government. I don't know if you noticed... so do a lot of us citizens.

it's just that this kind of attitude of the government has kinda formed an image of america that makes it seem to other people that it's acceptable for them to insult or be prejudice towards america. it's coz america is seen as being on top so it's like they're just making a few jokes at america's expense.